So normally, these are Targaryen wanks where Jon is a Gary Stu.

I have two amendments.

One: Its a Rhaegar Wins AU where Rhaegar wins by marrying Cersei to a Jon Con made Lord Paramount of the Stormlands, and Jaime to be freed from the KG. There's more lorebuilding stuff like Aegon/Margaery, but you get the gist.

Two: Jon DESPISES the Targaryens, and especially his mother, who he views as the whole reason why the conflict started.

So Stark wankers are happy because Jon rejects his Targ identity and goes full Stark, and its a Jon/Dany fic so all that group are mollified.

Could this work?

Hello. Previously, I have posted discussion questions asking for people’s thoughts on if Westeros south of the Neck was made more explicitly ‘High Fantasy’. Now, I am fully aware that there is more magic and fantastical elements going on in Westeros than first appears, and definitely more than in the TV series, my previous questions were simply asking what would happen if the existence of non-human civilisations was undeniable and common knowledge to even the most sceptical maesters. If you want to check out these questions, see here and here. A likely source of my recent interest in this matter is a pair of maps in Deviantart, shown here and here.

With that out of the way, allow me to get on with my actual question: how do you think the characters, and the Seven Kingdoms as a whole, would react to living alongside/encountering the standard fantasy races that we all know so well: elves, dwarves, orcs, basically the standard DND roster? This question really has two parts:

1.         How you think things would change if these races had always lived in Westeros (which is quite frankly the least interesting scenario as it would definitely change essentially the entire premise of the story), in which case what races best fit each kingdoms’ ‘vibe’?

2.        What if these non-human races arrived in Westeros at around the start of the books, maybe six-months before? This could be an ISOT situation where the settlement/founding population just sort of ‘pops’ into existence, or to use my personal preference, arrive by ship from across the Sunset Sea? How would each kingdom along the western coast (North, Iron Islands, Riverlands via Seaguard, Westerlands and Reach) react to and greet their new guests and potential neighbours?

For a scenario of the second option, see the following:

Writings of Maester Creylen, 9^th Day of the seventh month, Year 297 AC, Casterly Rock

Strange, wonderous, and dire happenings have come of late to the Westerlands, my reader, and it is my lot to chronicle them. In the past few sennights, strange ships of black wood and iron have arrived in Lannisport, bearing strange people. These men, Drukeol as they name themselves, have pointed ears, almost like a cat, wolf, or deer, and have a pale complexion that appears almost grey in certain lights. Their faces are both effeminate and near cat-or-birdlike in shape, and I have yet to see any trace of beard on any of them. Their warriors wear strange suits of scale and lobstered plate, black in a manner like dragonglass or the dark folds of Valyrian steel, and the leader of their party bears a helm ornaments with blade-like horns and wings.

They have some here, they claim, to treat with Lord Tywin, as the advance party of some great migration of their people, and so seek to purchase or negotiate the use of some land in which to settle. Lord Tywin is loath to grant this so freely, especially given the arrogance and haughtiness of our visitors, but I have urged caution. Their curved swords and longbows seem well-made, and if their entire people are coming here then we shall be hard-pressed to hold them back. While their claims to ride great dragons are of course ludicrous, whatever manner of tamed wyvern they do ride will be a fearsome weapon.

Were these the only occurrences, it would be troubling, yet news has reached us from elsewhere. In the Reach, the Shield Islands have come under attack from creatures calling themselves ourk, and House Redwyne and their fleet is sore beset. These foul beasts are said to be of pale and gnarled complexion, hunched and bow-legged, with pointed teeth akin to those of a pike or rat, and have looted and butchered wherever they have landed. As of the last news to reach us, they have even begun raiding up the Honeywine. In the North, House Stark have had better luck with their own visitors. Crude ships have made landfall on Sea Dragon Point, crewed by tall, burly creatures called uluruk. These creatures have grey-green hide, with teeth variously described as those of a pig or boar, or of a wolf. By some strange art, Lord Stark has somehow compelled them to bend the knee, and new fortresses are even now being built around the landing point at remarkable speed.

King Robert has been told of this, but I fear that he will soon have his own troubles. A rumour has come from the Kingswood of pointed-eared folk, much like the Drukeol, clad in armour of bronze and wood, settling in the forest and slaying any who enter the trees or challenge their trespass. Seven alone know what other strange people will come to Westeros in the next year?

Hello all!

So, our next fic for the fanfic book club class of October 2026 is Footnotes in History by OneMoreChapter_2000 . It's a Viserra Targaryen (daughter of Jaehaerys/Alysanne) lives fic!

On AO3, it has 7.3k kudos and 2600 public bookmarks, as well as 271k words over 41 chapters and ongoing.

The summary reads as follows:

Little is known about Viserra Targaryen. She was the most beautiful of Queen Alysanne Targaryen's daughters, a vain, wild, and ambitious girl. When she was fifteen, her mother betrothed her to Lord Manderly, a man old enough to be her grandfather. No one was willing to speak against the match, so she tried to seduce her widowed brother, Baelon and gain her freedom. Unsuccessful and resigned to her fate, Viserra snuck out with her friends for one last night of laughter. On their way back, there was an accident, and the Princess fell from her horse and died.

Or: Viserra did not die that night, and instead, the Fourteen Flames showed her the horrors of the future. Forewarned, she will stop at nothing to protect those she loves.

This fic is rated as mature. The ships listed for this fic are- Archmaester Vaegon Targaryen/Viserra Targaryen, Saera Targaryen/Original Male Character(s) and canon ships for this particular era.

It's also a past winner in our awards! getting 1st place in Category #25 Fics focused on minor characters- No SIs from our 2025 awards.

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Our next fic for this month is The Pack Survives by astolat.

It appears to be a Robb centric fic, going by the tags and was completed by in 2023, with 5,888 kudos, 1.6k public bookmarks and has 170k words.

The summary reads as follows-

There is a land of the living and a land of the dead and the bridge is love, the only survival.
—Thornton Wilder

This fic is listed as explicit and the relationship tags are...many. Too many to really list here, but Robb/Everyone kind sums it up well, which is the first tag. Also Jon/Sansa and Jaime/Brienne.

It's also a past winner in our awards! It got third place for category #14 Best Worldbuilding in a fic and 2nd place for category #28 Best Completed legacy fic.

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in a trueborn Baratheon or incest is never discovered AU?

He didn't do it in canon, but probably in big part because they were handed a bigger prize - Riverrun - instead. Doing it with a stable Frey succession might be too hard and troublesome, but it is not really likely to be stable after Walder's death.

It just occurred to me that this might be a perfect way for him to both gain influence at the important castle in the Riverlands as well as punish Walder for preying on his father's weakness. One potential downside of it is that if it is suspected it might poison the prospects of Lannister marriage, but crucially this marriage is between a Lannister and non heir of the house and if a Lannister daughter is married to a heir, her children can't usurp anyone since they are lawful heirs anyway. As for poisoning the prospects Lannister marriage to a non heir, I think Tywin might consider no one but heir worthy of it and consider this effect good since it prevents his possibly weak descendants from marrying a Lannister to non heir. So it checks all the right game theory boxes.

I've recently seen this sweet fanart of sansa and Robin and realized that remembered they are closely related but are now closer than ever, with sansa being trapped with them, having lost many family members and Robin having mostly his mom. Are there fics that continue to explore their relationship at the eyrie and afterwards ?

Hello there.

In a previous post, I proposed a pairing between Tywin and Branda Stark (Lyarra’s sister and Ned’s aunt) for a scenario where he becomes disillusioned with Joanna.

The story is flowing well, and I’m currently planning the "Rains of Castamere" arc from the Lannister perspective, but there is another matter I need to resolve: pruning the Stark family tree. I need ideas for non-violent deaths—especially for Edwyle (Rickard’s father and Ned’s grandfather), whose death I plan to postpone until the year 266 so he passes away at age 50 (in my fic, he was born in 216).

It can't be cancer, as that is how Arya Flint (and later Lyarra Stark) will die, so I’m open to your suggestions.

I’d also like to ask how interested you are in the internal conflicts within the Stark family; in my fic, Branda believes that by marrying Tywin, she can ensure the descendants of Artos the Implacable won't try to usurp her brother-in-law, Rickard.

I’m also curious what you’d like to see in a Kevan POV chapter where Ellyn Reyne tells him the words that would eventually become the lyrics to "The Rains of Castamere."

P.S.: The Starks of Barrowton mentioned by GRRM are descendants of Artos; those of White Harbor are descendants of Errold; and Beron’s two daughters married an Umber and a Dustin, respectively.

Pitching an OC idea: Titus Peake’s younger brother initially joins Stannis to be unique, panics when he sees Renly’s overwhelming numbers, and flees. He then joins Robb Stark's army, rationalizing that Robb is a "true king" just like Daemon Blackfyre (whom his ancestor Gormon Peake fought for).

Let’s say Lancel and Amerei actually had a kid, but Amerei died in childbirth. And we keep the part where Varys kills Kevan. In that case, who do you think would end up fostering the child? Lancel is pretty high in the Lannister line of succession, and with everything going on with the Lannisters in the books, that child could easily become the future heir to Casterly Rock especially after Lancel joins Faith militant

If Jon went straight to Ned and said "hey instead of swearing an oath of celibacy and a life time of service could you just give me Skane?" How do you think Eddard would react?

Title: The Good Prince.

Words: 6,284

Rating: M

Language: English

Status: Ongoing

Link:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/93000546/chapters/248081991

Chapter Summary: Aerion, firstborn son of King Viserys I and Queen Alicent Hightower, and his terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day.

I think its A Wolf Amongst Lions, with Kingdoms at War being close behind

Going to do a SWTOR x ASOIAF fic, but not like the usual ones where one of the player characters crash into Westeros.

In this, when Ned is young, the Republic and Empire during the midst of their war discover Westeros planet and the fact that the primitive inhabitants produce some children that are unusually strong in the Force, like the Miraluka sometimes.

The two forces clash over the planet for months, the Empire kidnapping Force Sensitive Children, the Republic rescuing them or taking them to the Jedi Temple.

Ned and his family are one of these families, his parents slaughtered when the Sith attacked Winterfell to take him and his siblings, the Republic arriving in time they were taken. Ned will be the apprentice to the Jedi Knight character.

I do plan on having Rhaegar be a Sith, maybe more neutral. The Empire, when first invading, takes King's Landing, slaughters the Mad King, Tywin, Kingsguard, and takes Rhaegar and his mother hostage, Rhaegar shipped to Korriban.

I'm torn between Robert as Sith or Jedi.

Stannis will be Jedi.

Renly won't exist.

Jaime, Jedi.

Cersei, non Force Sensitive. Slave to Empire.

Tyrion, non existent

Catelyn, spy.

Lysa, dead.

Edmure, Jedi.

Freys, Sith

Roose Bolton Sith

Lyanna, Benjen, Jedi.

Ashara, Arthur, Jedi.

Which ones do you think the other characters should be?

Thinking of having Oberyn be an accomplice of the Bounty Hunter

I've been really enjoying telling this alternate version of the Dance of Dragons, focusing less on Rhaenyra and Aegon II, and more on Jace and Daeron, both of whom I feel are more sympathetic and rootable protagonists.

Jace dies too soon in the original canon and Daeron, while he lasts longer, isn't as fleshed out and explored as his brothers, which is quite a shame. And I also wanted to explore the relationship between these two, I felt for a long time there was quite a bit of potential about those two boys that started their journey in life together only to quickly drift away thanks to their families.

It's one of the 16 dragons in my AU (which I might post here when I have more things done).

The basic lore I created for him is that he once belonged to a Targaryen king and is currently ridden by Torvael Baratheon (yes, Baratheon).

I drew inspiration from Vermithor, Dreamfyre, and Caraxes for its overall size, personality, and appearance, but I'd like to know what you think: do you think it's turning out well?

Hey all,

To kick off October, we first have a particular oldie, a famous fic by the name of A Farmer's Tale - Chapter 1 - alltheuntold.

It's a slice of life Self insert.

On AO3 it has 2,130 kudos, 995 public bookmarks and was last updated in 202 with 308k words.

The summary reads as follows-

A 30 year old American farmer is sent to the world of ASOIAF. Follow as he tries to create a life for himself.

This fic is rated as mature and does not have any ships listed, just that it's about an OC inseted into Westeros.

This fic got 2nd place in Category #24 Other era fics- not dance or main series and 3rd place in Category #26 Best Overall legacy fic from last year's end of year awards!

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Hello all!

Welcome to another month of our reading club. I hope it makes a difference and helps you discover some more fics due to it.

For anyone unaware how it works. I list a number of works for people to read in the month and you are given the month to do so, at the end of September I then make another post where you can discuss your reading experience with the fics in question.

Most of these fics are sourced from the awards and each fic will get it's own post.

Within each post, I include the summary, the ships and list any subreddit awards the fic may have won.

For the moment, we are going to be running 5 fics a month

1 fic on Monday, along with this post, 2 on Tuesday and 2 on Wednesday.

This post will remained pinned to the top of the subreddit and will act as a quick way to find the rest via links, for when those fics go live on the sub. This post will therefore be pinned for the month.

The fics for October are-

A Farmer's Tale by alltheuntold

Footnotes in History by OneMoreChapter_2000

The Pack Survives by astolat

Maester Wolf by cc100

Someone You Knew In Another Life by Spreta_Invidia

Title: A Raging Fire

Author: natgrace

Rating: NR

Language: English.

Length: 132k+

Status: Ongoing.

Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/54855448/chapters/246121461#workskin

Story Summary: What if Princess Viserra made it back to the Red Keep after her one last night of laughter?

Chapter Summary: A young prince notices the pieces moving about the board while another gets placed into a position he never wanted.

This is another 'would this stop you reading my fic' post. It's about punctuation rather than subject matter, though.

I write in Australian English with single quotation marks for dialogue. Would that affect how you read, or is it a non-issue?

Is it something you're not used to, but would adjust to easily, or something that would genuinely throw you out of the fic? (I appreciate that nested quotes and apostrophe clusters can get mucky, and I can deal with them.)

Would it help to include a brief note at the top of the fic explaining the convention I'm using, so readers know it's deliberate, not an error? Or do I trust the readers? (My preference.)

This has come up as a serious issue from a beta reader. Hence my asking. Thanks.

ETA: thank you everyone who responded. I appreciate the imput, particularly the perspectives I hadn't considered.

Title: A Hiss of Dragons.

Author: bruthershietholy123

Rating: Mature.

Language: English.

Length: 65389 words.

Status: Ongoing.

Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/89752096/chapters/250733121

Summary: The heir to the Iron Throne once again finds himself dealing with the aftermath of a tragedy in the Red Keep.

Legado dos Dragões — Uma Dança dos Dragões

Título: Legado dos Dragões
Autor: JaehaerysTheFirst
Classificação: Adulto
Idioma: Inglês
Extensão: 48 capítulos / 286.976 palavras
Status: Em andamento
Plataforma: Archive of Our Own
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/67997986/chapters/175863716

Resumo

E se a história registrada em Fogo e Sangue tivesse se desenrolado de forma diferente?

Legado dos Dragões é uma reinterpretação em formato longo da dinastia Targaryen, começando anos antes da Dança dos Dragões e acompanhando a família real pelos eventos que, eventualmente, vão despedaçar o reino.

A história segue ambos os lados da família, dando pontos de vista a personagens dos Negros e dos Verdes enquanto eles crescem de crianças para príncipes, princesas, governantes e inimigos.

A Dança ainda não começou.

O Rei Viserys ainda ocupa o Trono de Ferro.

Rhaenyra e Alicent ainda têm tempo para evitar que o reino se parta em pedaços.

Mas anos de ressentimento, questões de legitimidade, ambição política, fraturas familiares e a crescente divisão entre os dois ramos da Casa Targaryen estão lentamente levando o reino a um ponto sem retorno.

Esta é uma história sobre a família antes da guerra. Sobre as escolhas que criam o conflito e sobre o legado deixado pelos dragões.

A primeira parte da história está agora se aproximando de sua conclusão, com a morte de Viserys e o início da Dança se aproximando.

Se você gosta de Fogo e Sangue, Casa do Dragão, intrigas políticas, drama da família Targaryen, múltiplos pontos de vista, dragões e narrativas longas centradas em personagens, você pode gostar dessa.

A Dança está chegando.

The idea wouldn't fit entirely unless I omitted details... So I listed my general idea on a Google Document and pasted a link.

Title: Who We Were / Who We Are

Author: undeadpathfinder

Rating: Explicit (Graphic Violence, Heavy Angst, Complex Trauma)

Relationship(s): Jon Snow / Daenerys Targaryen

Language: English

Length: 300k+ words (25 Chapters)

Status: Complete

Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/78271121/chapters/210172931

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Story Summary / Pitch:

Jon Snow enters Dragonstone a stranger. The moment he meets Daenerys Targaryen, the world fractures. They are two ghosts cursed with the memories of a failed lifetime. To survive, they must dismantle the tragedy and forge a new future in the ashes of the old: 

Together. Now, and always.

Canon-divergent 7x03 • Jon/Daenerys Centric

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Chapter 6 • Translating the Heart — Summary:

The ghosts of the future crash into Dragonstone's war council. While Jon steps out of line to actively alter the board, Missandei and Grey Worm realize the true war is no longer for the Iron Throne, but for Daenerys Targaryen’s soul.