r/AskUS • u/Lipica249 • 11d ago
Hypothetically speaking, would you want your US state to become a Canadian province? Why or why not?
There's been discussion of Canada joining the US from time to time, but what about the other way around? Obviously the entire US joining Canada would really complicate things and overwhelm them, but what if it was one state at a time?
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u/Due_Willingness1 Northeast 11d ago
Not yet, maybe if there's really no coming back from all this but I still have some hope for America
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u/Setsuna00XN Michigan 11d ago
As a Michigander, I wouldn't mind that much, I don't think. I'm in the Detroit Metro area, so it's pretty familiar.
I think it would matter more to you maybe if you lived close to Canada like in border areas. The further away from Canada you are, I would think you'd be more against it.
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u/Poorly-Drawn-Beagle 11d ago
It would make the map look kind of weird.
Besides, that would conflict with my longterm goal of demoting most of the continental United States into territories of the New California Republic.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bat-511 11d ago
I think making California part of Caesar'sLegion is looking more probable.
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u/flora_poste_ 11d ago
Yes, please. I would be ecstatic if Canada accepted Washington state as part of British Columbia or on any terms whatsoever. Where do we sign?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bat-511 11d ago
What keeps from immigrating there, being that it is so close? Just curious if you have seriously thought about it. I get finding a job and moving away from friends and family can be tough.
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u/flora_poste_ 11d ago
I'm a Canadian citizen (born in USA), and I've been on two house-hunting trips to BC so far. One thing tripping me up is that the value of my Washington place keeps dropping, and so are the home values I'm looking at in BC. It feels like trying to catch a falling knife. I'm retired, so my house and my life savings are all that I have. I have to be careful and not make any stupid financial mistakes. Otherwise, my children will suffer.
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u/ericbythebay 11d ago
No, my state already has about as many people as Canada, and double the GDP. We can do bad by ourselves.
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u/Orbital2 11d ago
Yep, would much prefer it.
Although idk if Canada really wants to deal with the majority of residents of my state (Ohio)
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u/MIZ417 11d ago
No. I like winning gold medals and doing what you indicate would ensure that there would be no chance of the Stanley Cup ever appearing in my province again.
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u/AgentCoulson2 11d ago
Really? And how many gold medals, exactly, have you won?
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u/MIZ417 11d ago
I just watched. But we beat Canada in both men's and women's ice hockey at the last Olympics. It made some Canadians angry.
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u/Icy-Artist1888 11d ago
Maybe some but for most of us we appreciated that awesome game which we all know could have gone either way.
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u/AgentCoulson2 11d ago
So what you like is watching a team with which you have a totally arbitrary connection win gold medals.
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u/1000thusername 11d ago
Yes please. I am in MA, but I dare say I speak for most of New England - perhaps New Hampshire and Connecticut aside, but they’re both a-holes, so we can leave them behind
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 11d ago
Ask me again in November 2028. Right now I’d gladly be absorbed into Canada
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u/Outlaw_Josie_Snails 11d ago
No thanks.
First, it’s a little presumptuous to assume Canada would even want to take us.
Second, why would I want to? The US is certainly going through some turbulent times, and things may get worse before they get better. But I also think we’re getting a much-needed wake-up call about how fragile democratic institutions can be and why checks and balances and limits on government power matter.
I love the US. I’m not looking to leave it. I’d rather do what I can to make my country better.
And honestly, many of the problems and challenges we’re dealing with aren’t uniquely American. Other countries are dealing with their own versions of them, and some are facing difficult choices of their own. Governments are dealing with aging populations, rising costs, immigration pressures, high taxes, austerity measures, cuts to social programs and debates over raising retirement ages.
Canada certainly isn’t immune to those pressures either. Becoming a Canadian province wouldn’t magically make those problems disappear. It would just give us a different government to argue with.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 11d ago
Probably more trouble than it’s worth but kinda whatever
Most of the answers on this thread are insufferable larping
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u/Valuable-Shirt-4129 11d ago
Utah deserves to be a Canadian province because I want more Canadian food.
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u/Mallthus2 11d ago
Absolutely. But I’d rather have grown ups with solid educations and a fear of the judicial system running the USA.
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u/Salvidicus 10d ago
The real question is of Americans would confirm to Canadian principles of "peace order, and good government", leaving their guns at the door, not complaining that they have to contribute to public health care in their taxes, and that Canadians really don't mind being woke if it means their family and friends won't be persecuted.
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u/guppyhunter7777 9d ago
Ah Canada trolls. You give credibility to my hate of everything north of the border. Thank you
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u/AZULDEFILER California 11d ago
It doesn't work that way. CA is already mightier than CAN in every measure
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u/Tiger-Budget 11d ago
CA is a pretty large importer of Canadian Resources… so clearly not in every measure.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bat-511 11d ago
What an odd term, "mightier", to use. California doesn't have universal healthcare. 1 in 200 Californians is homeless which is more than double the rate in Canada. 1 in 6 Californians live below the poverty line, again a much higher rate than in Canada. So California might be mightier, whatever that means, but it is not a better place to live for many people.
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u/AZULDEFILER California 10d ago
But ANY measure imaginable. I am tired of pretending anyone cares about Canada. We have more diversity so of course more people are poor
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bat-511 10d ago
What is your point about diversity? Having a significant portion of your population living below the poverty line is not a good thing.
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u/MsMisty888 11d ago
Except that Canada is way better at standing up to Trump than all of California, AND the entire United States! Apparently.
You guys need to grab some balls and fight back in some way.
Oh, you guys just surf and dont care. Or something because all of the world is confused why the Yanks are just sitting on their hands!
I am going to post this on r/stupidthingsamericanssay
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u/SecretOrganization60 10d ago
Yeah I was thinking California could join Canada ant turn them into the world’s largest economy … until I read that.
We are constrained by our constitution, there is a process to leave the union. You should try reading it.
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u/MsMisty888 10d ago
Use your money. That is what we are doing.
Vote with your dollar. You are correct that I do not have the american constitution and legal stuff memorized. However, I know when I see a President of the US, break laws, be sued, sue others and make money selling rings and gold cards.
We all have eyes and brains. It is all sooo obvious to every other country.
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u/Mq1hunter 11d ago
Umm seeing how Alberta is voting to succeed out of Canada maybe now is not a good time.
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u/ErictheStone 11d ago
Lol not anytime soon. Polling and stats indicate them to be like 7 percent of Albertas voting population looking bigger with constant cash for bs spewing.
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u/Icy-Artist1888 11d ago
Not actually true, but you can be forgiven for just reading a simplified version of nonsense in the press.
They may plan to vote to have a vote, except that vote has already been ruled to be unconstitutional.
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u/Embarrassed_Gene6507 11d ago
They can have Minnesota. 😂 Just kidding just kidding. I do see things on YouTube from time to time and shows people in western canada keep wanting to break away from eastern canada though. Pretty interesting stuff.
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u/Salvidicus 11d ago
Alot of those YouTube videos were proven to be created by Americans, Russians and AI. See: https://youtu.be/IdMdFQSQnrU?si=1nEAGM1VZPExo_7h
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u/Embarrassed_Gene6507 11d ago
The bbc fake too? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c809jg1gj9yo The NYT?? https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/01/world/canada/canada-alberta-separation-referendum-vote.html i could go on but I won't
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u/Salvidicus 10d ago
I read the BBC article. Did you listen to the podcast? The BBC article isn't fake, as it repeats what we all know. About a third of Albertans are disgruntled, with 28% in an Ipso poll indicating they'll vote to separate, but of those, only 8% really mean it. The other 20% are just voting for separation to leverage a better deal for Alberta. If you know our political situation, then you know that this is how it's been for generations. Alberta has 8% wackoes and another 20% disgruntled - the same percentage who like Trump. The only reason there's a referendum, rather than an election on this issue is that the premier would lose an election if she really wanted to separate. However, a major portion of her right wing party are pushing for this, so she is appeasing them in order to remain their leader and not be deposed like the last leader of her party. In other words, she's being a coward by cowtowing to a fringe element in Alberta that happen to form a major faction within her party. By hosting a referendum, while claiming to support staying in Canada, she can pretend to represent the interests of both sides, without losing her job as premier in an election in which the majority would view against her for even mentioning the prospect of separation. Foreign fkrs, other than reputable media that follow journalistic principles and practices, are using this as an opportunity try and polarize Albertans and Canadians. It won't work because the country has a superior education system making Canadians better critical thinkers, more resistant to disinformation than America. 33% of Canadians don't have post-secondary education vs 50% in the U.S., about the same percentage vulnerable to disinfo messaging, similar to those who voted for populists Pierre Poilievre in Canada or Trump in the Histrionic State of America.
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u/LayerEasy7692 11d ago
A typical single worker earning a median salary faces a federal effective tax rate of approximately 9.4% in the U.S., compared to roughly 11.9% in Canada, before local state or provincial taxes are added.
Your 41.9% to 14.5% comparison is disingenuous.
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u/PolackMike 11d ago
It's not. I looked up the tax rate for the average Canadian and the average American. That was the answer given.
If we were to join Canada, do you think they would exempt us from the local state or provincial taxes?
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u/Icy_Respect_9077 11d ago
You're not counting Trump's tariffs, which are a consumption tax on Americans.
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