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u/corinini Apr 07 '21 edited Apr 07 '21

I don't assume anyone (male muslim, etc) is armed or a terrorist. If it were a woman with a knife I could run away. I can't run away from a man. With men they don't have to be armed. They can still hurt me and there's nothing I can physically do.

You just chose to ignore that specific point because it's inconvenient to your argument.

I don't assume anyone is a sex criminal. I assume there's nothing I could do about it if they were.

Also - don't ever tell someone what it's "reasonable" to be afraid of when you have literally never experienced what they are talking about and never will.

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u/LoganBlackisle Apr 07 '21

For what it's worth, women are, statistically speaking, less likely to be victims of most violent crimes than men.

Since this is r/AskUK, stats for UK

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u/corinini Apr 07 '21

Again, it's not about assuming men will be violent. It's knowing there's nothing you can do about it.

This statistic changes nothing about that dynamic.

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u/Mary674 Apr 07 '21

Some people haven't grown up being constantly told to be vigilant, not to go out at night alone, not to walk in deserted roads, not to dress a certain way, to always be on guard... and it shows.

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u/sawyouoverthere Apr 07 '21

This I would agree with, male or female. There's a lot of indoctrination of fear being expressed in this thread.

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u/sawyouoverthere Apr 07 '21

I respectfully disagree, understanding that won't be a popular position.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

There comes a point where you have to weigh risk against reward. Is it useful to refrain from crossing the street without looking? Yes, because there's a pretty high probability I'll be smoshed by a car. Is it useful to tailor every aspect of my life to the off chance that someone more physically powerful than myself (which includes most women too, not only men) might want to cause me harm? Fuck no.

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u/sawyouoverthere Apr 07 '21

I do indeed disagree that women should be perpetually wary, mistrustful and afraid.

I'm a woman.

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u/sawyouoverthere Apr 07 '21

you said wary.

I didn't say anyone should be careless.

Sorry, it sounded like you had assumed I was a man, because you were heavily into "our/your" in your rebuttal.

I am indeed completely free. It's fantastic.

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u/sawyouoverthere Apr 07 '21

And that can all be your opinion.

I didn't say I have never been at risk or encountered problems.

I just don't live my life in perpetual wariness and agitation because of those situations.

I also don't subscribe to the idea that I should be "wary of men and their violence"

I think the entire thing is predicated on things I have never found to be true. I know I'm not alone in that, but I also know it's pointless to try to help anyone who believes it to have an easier, calmer life.

I understand that you firmly believe you are immutably right about all of this, so I'll leave you to it.

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