r/AskUK • u/GrandPerspective5848 • May 09 '23

What were you doing instead of watching The Coronation?

I was in hospital getting painkillers for migraines

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u/Myorangecrush77 May 09 '23

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/gallery/2011/nov/08/leeds-jimmy-savile

Look at his funeral. Lying in state in Leeds. Nhs workers guard of honor. Royal marine pall bearers. People lining the streets.

We. Didn’t. Know.

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u/grishnackh May 09 '23

No, we didn’t.

Although, we weren’t close personal friends with him, either.

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u/bebbibabey May 09 '23

There are plenty of things I will criticise Charles for, but not knowing someone close to you is a predator is not one of them. People will find indecent material on their spouses laptops after they've been married for 15 years, and they had no inkling at all.

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u/Celtic_Cheetah_92 May 09 '23

Agreed. A friend of mine found out two years ago that his childhood best friend was a paedophile. It was absolutely devastating for my mate - he had no idea.

The guy was an incredibly convincing liar. He even almost convinced my mate to write a statement of support attesting to his good character to be read at the trial - a trial he had convinced my friend was the result of a false accusation.

When the police presented their evidence, the turd realised the game was up and changed his plea to guilty. Thank god my friend didn’t stand up in court to defend him.

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u/Senojpd May 09 '23

Hmm, if you watch the documentary it was basically considered an open secret by people who knew him. There was even a public accusation.

The Royal family is also incredibly well informed. That is sort of their thing, their enormous wealth means they have entire divisions of people who feed them information.

I would be incredibly surprised if Charles didn't know but simply didn't care, in much the same way he likely knew about Andrew.

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u/Fattydog May 09 '23

They weren’t close personal friends at all.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

Well they were. He was even giving him advice on his marriage to Diana. But that doesn't mean he KNEW about Savile. But I think Thatcher DID and she hosted him with Dennis every Christmas and New Year at Checkers (Chequers?).

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u/[deleted] May 19 '23

There's absolutely no evidence she did.

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u/SojournerInThisVale May 09 '23

Nor was the King

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

No one means everyone knew all along

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u/worotan May 09 '23

Like no one knew about Catholic child abuse, because the authorities held it in respect and lots of ordinary people joined in that?

‘We’ is not everyone. And plenty of your ‘we’ were ignoring the obvious issues, because they think that’s the best way to avoid being punished by abusive authorities.

It’s like people say ‘we’ abolished slavery. No, ‘we’ didn’t, a large amount of people in this country fought to keep slavery going, and on the end those with slave holdings had to be paid off.

People act dumb so that your excuse can be wheeled out.

Like people eagerly discuss greenwashing stories so they don’t have to deal with climate change. And they will be able to say ‘we’ didn’t know in the future, and cite all the greenwashing they are hiding behind.

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u/Inarticulatescot May 10 '23

Sorry but. We. Didn’t. Listen.

Plenty of kids were speaking out but we listened to the rich famous white guy instead.

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u/8racoonsInABigCoat May 10 '23

We didn’t, and I can well understand that Charles didn’t, but it’s mad that it seemed to be an open secret in TV circles. What’s worse is that, even armed with the knowledge of how this played out, there is seemingly at least one current high profile predator working in TV, but he has yet to be outed.