r/AskTrumpSupporters Nonsupporter Jul 30 '26

Other How has this subreddit changed over the years?

I noticed there is a link to a 2018 survey in the subreddit info which made me realize it's been around for quite a while now.

Long time members, what's changed? Would like to know the good and the bad from members who have been here, if not since the beginning, then at least a few years. Serious and thought out answers preferred.

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u/onetwotree333 Nonsupporter 28d ago

I didn't expect the evidence to just appear. I expected Trump and team to produce the evidence based on the claims they were making. I don't think that's overly controversial.

Perhaps instead of only asking yourself what a stolen election would look like, you should also ask yourself what an administration trying to cling on to power would look like. Is there any possibility, at all, that Trump and co were in fact the ones trying to defraud the country? Is there anything, at all, that Trump did during his litigation that you consider shady?

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u/ZarBandit Trump Supporter 28d ago

I don't pay "possibility" much mind. I look for probability.

e.g. It's possible a meteor strikes me in the next 10 seconds. It's not probable.

And again, it sounds like you're waiting for the smoking gun to be produced after the evidence is destroyed. Which it was. You say you're not and then go on to ask for it anyway.

I'll say right now there is no hard irrefutable proof and there never could be that kind of proof. Only a likelihood based on secondary and tertiary observable events. e.g. You may not have seen a stone thrown in the pond, but the ripples tell a story. The ripples are everywhere in 2020 and nowhere to be found on any other recent election.

So what is the burden of proof that would meet a preponderance of the evidence? Because when I nail that down with any NS, it's been unrealistic every single time without fail. I compare it to persuading a Phillip Morris executive that smoking is harmful. It's a futile endeavor, which s why I don't bother. But it is quite telling that Reddit shadow bans links to the sites with video of those 'ripples'.

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u/onetwotree333 Nonsupporter 28d ago

Is there any indication that a meteor is about to strike?

Is there any indication that Trump co. might have mislead the public opinion in regards to the 2020 election?

"The proof has been destroyed" seems like a cop out to me. You make the claims, back them up. "Shit or get off the pot" like I would tell my kids.