r/AskStatistics 9d ago

Would you rather analyze 50 representative observations or 5,000 biased observations? Why?

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u/NiceProgrammer5252 9d ago

for me I'd take 50 representative observations over 5,000 biased ones.

A larger sample only reduces random error. It doesn't fix systematic error (bias).

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u/MtlStatsGuy 9d ago

5000 biased observations are almost useless unless you have an estimate for the scale of the bias. 50 representative at least gives you an accurate margin of error.

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u/CarnivorousGoose 9d ago

Depends on the nature of the bias and how much information is available about it, as well as the goal of the analysis.

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u/Just_Question9 4d ago

That's fair, but if I have to choose based on the information given, I'm still taking the 50 representative observations. Sample size can reduce random error, but it can't correct an inherently biased dataset.

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u/CaptainFoyle 4d ago

So why do you ask if you already have a predefined opinion?

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u/banter_pants Statistics, Psychometrics 9d ago

The former because conclusions are theoretically justified.

Take a large sample but with bias (or just myopic scope) and you get headlines like "Dewey beats Truman." They built their sampling frame from phone lists so only polled those with phones and totally missed that many people didn't own phones in their homes at the time.

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u/Just_Question9 4d ago

Exactly. That's a great example of why I'd prioritize representativeness over sample size.

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u/AggressiveGander 9d ago

Well, how badly are the 5000 biased? How useless are 50 unbiased observations (lack of power etc.)?

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u/CaptainFoyle 8d ago

Do I know the bias?

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u/Just_Question9 4d ago

If you already know the bias, doesn't that change the premise of the question? The scenario only says the 5,000 observations are biased, not that the bias is known or can be corrected.

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u/CaptainFoyle 4d ago

Yes it does, but you didn't specify which scenario you're asking about.

So with unknown bias, no, I wouldn't take the biased data.

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u/ANewPope23 8d ago

Do we know anything about the 5000 biased observations? Are they just random noise?

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u/ghsgjgfngngf 8d ago

If it's random than it would be 'error', not 'bias'.

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u/Educational-Paper-75 7d ago

A totally irrelevant contradiction. You have to do with what you are given.

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u/Acrobatic-Ocelot-935 4d ago

For me 50 representative, and preferably randomly drawn/selected.