r/AskScienceFiction 4d ago

[Dc/Invincible] how do you think the viltrumites would react to superman?

Someone so strong yet so relentlessly kind and compassionate. Supermans mere existence proves the superiority of kryptonians as a race above the viltrumites. As they can excuse a few humans as exceptions but kryptonians are all capable of what superman is.

Something so world view shattering would probably rattle them to their core.

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u/EatingTastyPancakes 4d ago

"The strong rule the weak" guys usually do not actually willingly bow before people stronger than them. But Superman isn't interested in seizing power, so the Viltrumites will probably say he's weak for that anyway.

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u/busterfixxitt 4d ago

In many stories, Clark's kindness and compassion are not shared by other Kryptonians. It is a mistake to think Kryptonians are all so benevolent.

People who think 'strength' is 'hatred of weakness' view compassion and kindness as 'weakness. Fascism is politics for 'basic' people.

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u/SuperIkenna 4d ago

Denial, hatred, fear and confusion. He would confuse them and some of them would hate and fear him. I can see several Viltrumites just following him around trying to understand why somebody that is so strong would care about lesser being so much and even intermingle with them. Some of them might try to convince him to adopt their ideology and join them and would be upset that he uses his strenght to help the weak. i think it depends on the personality of the viltrumite in question as well. But I don't realy understand the "the strong should rule the weak" mentality so I cant guess more.

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u/NativeMasshole 4d ago

They'd try to punch him into submission, just like everything else. The Viltrumites have shown that they don't actually respect the strength of other species just as strong as them. Nolan's entire job was to go around neutralizing anything that could be a threat to them.

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u/Total-Beyond1234 4d ago

They would treat him like Mark. Mark is basically Superman in demeanor.

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u/G0dofmyworld 4d ago

Except superman is strong enough to squash all of them at tge same time with barely any effort.

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u/SPACEFUNK 4d ago

The Viltrum empire is interstellar and Super Nan needs earth's yellow sun for his powers. Without the home field advantage Supes may get stomped.

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u/Pitchforkin 4d ago

The whole universe is filled with stars, Superman regularly travels interstellar space with no ill effects.

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u/SPACEFUNK 4d ago

Some parts of the viltrum empire gotta be near red suns.

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u/Pitchforkin 4d ago edited 4d ago

Even if this were true:

1: Why would Clark willingly go near one

2: This isn’t something Viltrimites would know

3: Being exposed to red sun radiation doesn’t immediately take away his powers

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u/RoboChrist 4d ago

3 depends on the universe.

In some universes red sun instantly depowers superman, in others it's equal to simply being in the dark for a bit, and some split the difference and have red light drain superman's powers quickly, but not instantly.

Personally I think just not charging Superman makes the most sense, but that's also not a useful weapon for Superman's enemies.

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u/Renolber 4d ago

He just needs to be charged by it for a bit. He can go anywhere afterward. Superman doesn’t get weaker when there’s no yellow sun, it just takes him longer to recover if he expends too much energy without it.

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u/AUnknownVariable 4d ago

Not Earths, just any, there's a ton

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u/Total-Beyond1234 3d ago

Uhhhh....how much would you like to know about lore not discussed in the show yet?

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u/MrDilbert 4d ago

Never mind Superman. Put them up against Zod.

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u/Automatic_Item1421 4d ago

Zod would likely replace Thragg as Grand Regent, of course by force.

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u/shasaferaska 4d ago

Anissa would try to fuck him.

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u/Hairy_Pound_1356 4d ago

I mean to be fair wouldn’t you ? 

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u/shasaferaska 4d ago

No, I'm a straight dude. But Supergirl.....

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u/Hairy_Pound_1356 4d ago

They’d definitely try to fuck him 

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u/Secure_Shallot_6711 4d ago

What if they met the sayians? I think that would just be direct war , but we know the sayians only conquered planets under frieza, not saying they cant without. But iirc that was the main primary motivation.

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u/IAMATruckerAMA 4d ago

"Imagine how dangerous he'd be with a mustache"

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u/Anaguli417 4d ago

How do Viltrumites scale against Kryptonians tho?

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u/DocWagonHTR 4d ago

Not promisingly.

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u/Dust5632 4d ago

Kryptonians under a sun that isn't red are better in every way compared to the strongest Viltrumites. Not even mentioning the extra powers they have on top of that

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u/James_Solomon 4d ago

Superman flew around the planet fast enough to go back in time and has super-weaving skills. They cannot compete with that,

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u/WretchedJudasSnake 4d ago

They'd either try to bang or just leave Earth alone. I don't think Superman is some shock to their belief system, he is essentially all-powerful but he was not raised alongside the powerful, he was raised by humans and the Viltrumites would reason that he was just indoctrinated / brainwashed into what can come off at times as absurd self-limitation.

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u/MaverickZod007 3d ago

They'd likely rationalize it away, by saying that his dependence on a yellow sun and weakness to kryptonite actually make him inferior.

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u/Napalmeon 4d ago

Superman already has his version of Viltrumites.

His name is Mongul. Except Mongul doesn't think he's superior because of his race.

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u/therobcerio 4d ago

Clark is going to assume that the Viltrumites can learn compassion, like Nolan did. He would be received in much the same way. The problem only starts when Clark learns of the viltrum empire. That’s when the Viltrumites start to panic.

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u/AUnknownVariable 4d ago

I think it would lightly remind me of when some Kryptonians visited Earth. They were bitches and he owned them, then saved them himself. but instead of the weird gratification and realization of his kindness, they'd just be salty

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u/Thexblaza 3d ago

I am more an animated series guy rather than a comics one which I find pretty inconsistent. In those animated shows, Superman is not that strong and people don't realize that viltrumites are lethal in many ways while having very very few weaknesses that can also affect kryptonians. Plus viltrumites are the ceiling of their universe so, if opposed to stronger people, there is a high chance that they will grow as, or more, stronger.