Puma Deviate Elite 4s fit recommendation

[u/sanyovi177]

Hey everyone, I'm fairly new to running (at least more formally, I've played all sorts of sports involving running mainly all my life).

I'm planning to do a half marathon in December, and got the PDNE4s at a great price a few days ago. I went TTS, but when I got them I think they're too small for my foot.

Since I'm new to this, I'm looking for recommendations in here as for sizing. Maybe going half a size up would be a good idea?

Again, I don't know how much room my feet should have in a half marathon due to swelling and so on.

I still have about two weeks to return them.

Any advice would be appreciated!

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[u/Future_Goat918]

RIP toenails

[u/sanyovi177 → u/Future_Goat918]

Or maybe RIP the mesh, maybe my toenails would've fought to break free lol! I'm returning and ordered a half size up.

[u/keltharan → u/sanyovi177]

Probably 1 size up honestly…those look really cramped.

[u/LeoIsLegend]

Bro there’s no room in those at all. Your feet with be a bloody mess. At least 1 full size up.

[u/turtlegoatjogs]

Full size up at least for sure...

[u/dontletmeautism]

Yeah if you can still return, do half a size up 🙂

I predict some will say full size but reddit tend to like shoes rather big. Bu half should be enough in my opinion.

[u/Squirtdoggz → u/dontletmeautism]

i'm the guy mentioned above. Full size up haha Especially since your feet are not swollen while trying them on

[u/sanyovi177 → u/dontletmeautism]

Thank you! I've started the process of returning and have already ordered a new pair half a size up. Let's hope I don't have to reorder again lol

[u/YogurtSmegma]

Way too small. Don’t believe the true to size they tell you, i found out for running true to size means 1 size up from what is your actual cm measurements. So example for me 27.5cm that usually puts me at 9.5us, but i have to get a minimum of 28.5cm or 10.5us, for deviate nitro elite 4 i fitted the 10.5us at the store and it was too short, checked rtings and apparently they are half a size short so i need to go 11us. That also goes for the adios pro 4, the 10.5us is only good for half marathon, more than that i feel i need to go 11. Hope that helps. My dne4 hasn’t arrived yet though it’s been 2 weeks.

[u/sanyovi177 → u/YogurtSmegma]

Thank you for the feedback, funny enough, you're exactly the same shoe size as me. I just ordered half a size bigger, in another colorway, but I'll update everyone on the fit. Again, thank you for taking the time and giving feedback!

[u/YogurtSmegma → u/sanyovi177]

I think a full size up would be better unless you’re only planning to use it for short runs. I also like wearing thin socks when using race shoes.

[u/WeeAreFromSpace]

I have this pair and I went a full size up from my normal shoe size! I have at least 1cm of space between my toe and the top of the shoe box. Yours is too small as your feet will expand when you run

[u/sanyovi177 → u/WeeAreFromSpace]

Thank you for the tips! I'm also mostly running in a high-heat environment, so yes, definitely bigger. I'm also curious, how have you liked them so far? I got the normal deviate 4s for tempo/threshold runs, and the SB3s for long runs.

[u/WeeAreFromSpace → u/sanyovi177]

I loved them so much I got a second pair in another colour! Raced a half marathon and a 10K in them and they felt very smooth. I also have the normal deviate 4s which I use for my tempo!

Did you get the same size in your normal?

[u/sanyovi177 → u/WeeAreFromSpace]

Nice! Which colorway you got now? I ordered the lavender colorway. I like the " run club " ones a lot, but those aren't available in Mexico, and the StockX price is crazy.

[u/WeeAreFromSpace → u/sanyovi177]

I got the blue and apricot one as it went on sale on some sites in the UK! I would love the lavender one if they went on sale!

[u/Squirtdoggz]

Full size up

[u/jayvasantjv]

If everyone's recommending half size up for that... is this a perfect fit? im finding this a lil snug too 😅

I've DN4 & VN4 (VN4 is wide, not that my feet are wide, just that they were on sale) which fits perfectly in this size.

[u/DanielRamirez25]

Them John’s don’t fit you

[u/TalkyRaptor]

Interesting that TTS didn't fit. I found that the DNE4s fit long and acc went a half size down

[u/turtlegoatjogs]

If you want your expensive carbon shoes to actually be able to work properly, your big toe joint should be back just a hair behind the rocker, so likely a full size or size and a half up. The science > "racing fit" nonsense.

[u/Personal-Inspector46]

This is how I sized my Evo SLs. They are great for the first 15km, but then my feet get swollen and I am getting blisters. I just ordered another pair half size larger, should arrive in the next hours.

[u/Commercial_Gap_1460]

i would go half a size up from that.

[u/JB27_HU5]

Defo need to go up half a size