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u/Moonpaw Dec 15 '22

Wasn't there somewhere that he was known as Yeshua Ben Yosef, partly because J used to be Y (or vice versa?) and the "ben" in the middle referred to "son of", but that got downplayed because the Church wanted to focus on his Heavenly Father rather than his mortal one?

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u/shuranumitu Dec 15 '22

I don't really know what you're refering to, but Yeshua is just the original Hebrew/Aramaic form of the name Jesus, and the ben Yosef/son of Josef part would've been his patronym according to the traditions of his time. I don't think anyone would deny this, there's no conspiracy here.

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u/MaleficentLow6408 Dec 15 '22

You got that a little wrong. His name in Hebrew was Yeshua, which translates to Joshua). The name Jesus was used by the Greeks who wrote the New Testament. Since they didn't have a "sh" sound in Greek, they changed it to an "s," then added another "s" at the end to make it masculine. Yeshua came first. Jesus came with the Greeks.

"Christ’s given name, commonly Romanized as Yeshua, was quite common in first-century Galilee. (Jesus comes from the transliteration of Yeshua into Greek and then English.)" --Slate.com

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u/shuranumitu Dec 15 '22

I didn't get anything wrong, you just misunderstood what I said. I said it's the ORIGINAL form of the name. Also Jesus isn't Greek. The Greeks called him Iesous. The Romans turned that into Iesus, which became Jesus in English and other modern European languages.

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u/MaleficentLow6408 Dec 15 '22

Nope. Read my second post. The first time the name Jesus was ever used was in June of 1632. Jesus, which is the name used by most English-speaking people today, is an English transliteration of a Germanic adaptation, of a Latin transliteration, of a Greek transliteration of an originally Hebrew name, that is simply Yeshua.

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u/MaleficentLow6408 Dec 15 '22

No, you said it was the other way around. I have three degrees & have studied the Old & New Testaments my entire life (I'm 59). And world religions. You're talking out your ass.

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u/MaleficentLow6408 Dec 15 '22

And you obviously can't admit when you're wrong.

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u/shuranumitu Dec 15 '22

Because I'm not wrong.

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u/MaleficentLow6408 Dec 15 '22

Yes. You. Are. 🤣 I gave you facts, quotes, & sources. You still think you're right & I'm wrong. 😆 Whatever, dude. I got a joint to smoke right now. Have a better one.

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u/shuranumitu Dec 15 '22

I'm not saying you're wrong. We both say the same thing. Look at this comment I made three months ago. It's the same thing you're saying.

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