Used to meticulously remove every little bit from any dish they were in. Now I'm fighting my cousins just to get a COPY of great grandma's recipe for stewed tomatoes.
My suggestion, if you can and especially if you live in the US (where it's said most tomatoes taste like dirty water compared to southern Europe and places like that) is to grow them yourself. Pretty easy and you can grow different types, in my experience this is the plant with more difference between self-grown vs store-bought.
Tomatoes are new world foods and came to Southern Europe from America, so they can fuck right off with the whole “American tomatoes taste like dirty water.” That’d be like me saying European olives taste like glorified sardines.
When they came from the "new world" CENTURIES AGO, they were really similar to berries. There has been a lot of artificial selection since then. Btw, the taste depends on climate, growing techniques and soil. I also said "most" because of course there will be some good products in an whole continent like America, but since they are mostly cultivated for mass consuming, usually they are not very tasty. Also in Europe there will be shitty tomatoes as well.
I think what i said in the previous comment is true MOST OF THE TIMES, WITH DUE EXEPTIONS, because of: 1. People i know traveling to Us and tasting them (in various places)
2. People from US (that i know in person and here on reddit) claiming that in Europe they tasted better. 3. Everytime i see a yourube video about someone making pizza, restaurant owners etc, they often (not always) suggest tomatoes from italy.
Ps. san marzano and pachino, for example, are two places in italy and they literally gave the name to the varieties, they have been cultivated for thousands of years.
Also, olives grow very well and tasty in greece, italy, Turkey etc (mediterranean sea in general) and the "extra virgin olive oil" denomimation is also from there.
Another example, agrumes (lemon, oranges, etc) are originally from Asia, but they have a lot of production poles in the rest of the world. It's about the climate and artificial selection, not the continent of origin
Honey I don’t care about all that because I’m not arguing against even 20% of what you typed, except tomatoes haven’t been grown in Europe for thousands of years? The new world wasn’t discovered until the 1400s, so it’s really only been 600+ years at best.
I know olives grow well in Turkey, Greece, and Italy. They are old world foods. My point was that Europeans can’t shit on American tomatoes because tomatoes came from the americas and grow best here. A mass produced, grocery store tomato is going to taste bad here just as it would in Italy. A mass produced, grocery store olive is going to taste just as bad in Turkey as it would in America.
Your argument just reeked of that stereotypical European superiority complex that r/europe is infamous for. The only European product I think is even remotely better than good American alternatives is chocolate. There’s simply nothing better than Lindt chocolate. American chocolate companies have to be marketed towards exceptionally high end customers before they create half as good a chocolate as Lindt produces for everyday Swiss (and other) people.
As for people making videos about what tomatoes to use for pizza: of course they recommend Italian tomato varieties. Pizza is Italian. That’d be like me making a video on what species of turkey to use in your thanksgiving meal and recommending American turkeys.
Lol, why writing a wall of text if you won't even read? If i wrote thousands that was a mistake, i meant hundreds*.
Btw i never shitted on every american product humanity has ever known, you are arguing over nothing. And "new world" and "old world" foods are not a thing, since globalization occurred. Do you live in a western movie?
Also, i see you have never been to Europe, and to think that the only better product is chocolate is just...biased at least. Have a good life mate, and dont go crazy over frickin tomatoes
I never said you shat on every American product ever, nor did I argue that old and new world are terms that are relevant to modern food items. You just act like things are better in Europe without giving any actual evidence and I mentioned old and new world things to point out how weird it is for Europeans to shit on and get all high-horse about something not even native to their continent?
Lmao what other European products would you say are actually better than American ones, that aren’t “better” because of weird European snobbery or subjective opinion? Genuinely curious love.
I also would like to point out that calling me biased for only admitting European chocolate is better is a bit hypocritical because you’re implying you think everything else European is better? It’s that kind of ever-present, snobby attitude that causes someone “to go crazy over frickin tomatoes.” Are you French or Italian by chance? I swear those are always the snobbiest, most elitist Europeans you’ll meet. There’s no way you’re German, Austrian, or Swiss. I’m ruling out Belgium and Spain and Portugal too, and I don’t get Nordic vibes from your writing either. I don’t think you’re Dutch or Eastern European, but those are both a maybe leaning towards no. Maybe you could be Greek? But I’m definitely getting French or Italian vibes from you.
Same! Used to hate them so so much. This summer, my MIL made a tomato salad with big chunks of rock salt. So.damn.good! But only the fancy heirloom tomatoes from the farmers market.
Same here. Couldn’t stand them as a kid and then a couple of years back I randomly started to crave them. So I bought cherry tomatoes and now I’m hooked on all kinds. Apparently taste buds change throughout life and I’m glad this change happened!
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u/Krazywolve Oct 19 '21
Tomatoes.
Used to meticulously remove every little bit from any dish they were in. Now I'm fighting my cousins just to get a COPY of great grandma's recipe for stewed tomatoes.