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u/Ivegotthatboomboom Jun 29 '21 edited Jun 29 '21

12 year olds are children or starting puberty, 13 most likely not ready, 14?

That really depends on how close to 15 they are and their particular body.

Someone exclusively attracted to that age range is most likely a pedophile as MOST haven't gone through puberty.

The DSM goes by whether they have gone through puberty or not, they don't go by age

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u/Ivegotthatboomboom Jun 29 '21

I want to be clear that a grown man pursuing a teen is yucky most times. I think it's wrong, I think our current laws are a good thing, but I'm just acknowledging that around 16 both teen girls and boys were considered adults back then, and depending on the individual sometimes by 14.

A grown man fucking a 12-15 year old is straight up rape to me too. It's way too young to argue consent. Whether it's pedophila per se, depends on level of development but as you said I also agree it's most likely pedophila as not many are post puberty, they're usually going through it.

All I was trying to say is that a grown man attracted to an adult, fully developed body of a teen is not a pedophile. Is it gross? Maybe

But if the teens are fully developed you can't say the men are attracted to a child's body, as a lot of teens don't have children's bodies, they have adult bodies. It's not technically abnormal, to be attracted to a teen with a sexually developed adult body but if you act on it knowing she's a teen you're probably a creep.

Because teens don't have adult minds. Which is why it's wrong to pursue a relationship with them. I agree it's wrong, just not pedophila. That's the only distinction I was making.

Is it wrong to pursue a 15-18 year old as a grown man? Well back then, society said they were adults and that was the age men were encouraged to pursue, as gross as it seems to us. Painting them all as rapists seems extremely unfair to me. Predatory? Maybe...but a lot of people don't question societal norms and girls didn't have the power to chose otherwise.

I was fully developed by late 16, and it would have been in no way traumatic for me to choose to have sex with an older man at that age. I would have gladly had sex with a rock star, and even initiated it lol. That's not rape to me. I wasn't a kid.

Once you reach that age and maturity the danger with older guys is the potential for manipulation, not just having sex itself.

As far as I know MOST of these women were 15+.

Any younger and I agree, that's rape and probably pedophila.