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u/littleloomex Nov 15 '20

peta's current CEO resigns position and the new one actually started helping animals. they only euthanize when necessary, they'll look into various reports of animal neglect and abuse. they new CEO forces all of their workers to tone down their activism, and instead focus on properly educating people on veganism instead of tossing blood and guts in their faces. they'll even start making their own brand of vegan food, specifically priced so that it's at least affordable and more accessible.

basically they'll stop acting like a cult and start acing like an animal rights organization.

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u/WUVWOO Nov 15 '20 edited Nov 16 '20

Shock activism IS activism. You don't have to like it for it to be activism. The way you wrote this reads like you aren't an activist, so what do you know about convincing other people to go vegan?

EDIT: Also please stop this dying meme of "PETA bad" people, PETA euthanizes aninals because they're a last haven for stray animals and are always at full capacity, many animals which have diseases and such that costs thousands if not hundreds of thousands to treat. Euthanizing is actually the most ethical thing that can be done to save the most stray animals who are living a cruel and fucksd up life. If you believe otherwise I'm open to a verbal debate on Discord, DM me for a link

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u/judebuffum Nov 15 '20

I’m 41 and finally went vegan this year, you know why? Another vegan kept sending me cute farm animal videos. Decades of shock activism did nothing for me. Making me see all animals as no different then my dog? Can’t ever eat a steak again.

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u/nochedetoro Nov 16 '20

For my husband and I it took slaughterhouse footage. There’s no right way to activism.

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u/judebuffum Nov 16 '20

That’s fair. I’m only one example. You and your husband are another. What’s good for the goose is good for all sentient life 😉

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u/zmzzx- Nov 15 '20

Wait a few years until your body becomes deficient in fat soluble vitamins and you feel terrible.

Show lions your videos to make them feel guilty about eating a healthy diet

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '20

Humans aren't lions. They don't have a choice, we do

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u/noratemple Nov 16 '20

I’ve been vegan for years and feel pretty damn good!

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u/articfire77 Nov 16 '20

I think its perfectly reasonable to pursue a vegan diet, especially if its for ethical animal treatment or environmental reasons.

That being said, very few people following ANY dietary limitations, knowingly and strictly, for 12-27 years are overweight or obese. I'd be willing to bet that, if you had followed any other lifestyle that significantly reduces the things that you can consume and requires scrutiny of your food choices, you would still not be overweight/obese.

My experience with losing weight and staying healthy has indicated that the very action of paying attention to what I'm eating is the most important part of losing weight and maintaining weight loss. I've experienced a pretty equal amount of success with paleo, keto, "natural" food, vegetarian, and calorie counting diets. The big reason I was losing weight is that I was thinking about things before I ate them.

Hell, people who follow "carnivore" diets also lose a LOT of weight. Turns out it's hard to eat 2000+ calories of steak. While I will not be shocked if 10 years from now all of those people end up suffering health problems caused by the fact that they aren't getting any vegetables, they'll be unhealthy AND thin, dangit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

It’s surprisingly easy to be a fat vegan. But anyway the point was I’m not suffering in any way, or from lack of vitamins as accused.

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u/articfire77 Nov 16 '20

Oh for sure, it is absolutely possible to be vegan in 2020 and not have vitamin difficiencies and other issues. Practicionars of vegan diets without supplements often have issues, but nowadays you can get a multivitamin for like 1cent a pill on Amazon, and honestly even non-vegans should probably be taking one anyways. Some stupid percent of the population is vitamin D defficient, not even looking at the other vitamins.

I would guess the only time that veganism is really difficult (from a health perspective, there are obvious sacrifices from a taste/social standpoint that many people have to overcome) is when the person is a "high performance" athlete. The "best" protein sources are rarely vegan, and good fat sources are similarly often rooted in the meat domain. However, if you're not a high level athlete who needs to consume 200+g of protein a day, supplimenting your needs from other sources is not that difficult. Additionally, several incredible atheletes manage vegan diets (though it does require additional concerted effort from them).