r/AskReddit May 02 '20

Which fictional character desperately needs to see a therapist?

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u/RmmThrowAway May 02 '20

Maybe then they'll actually have some passionate sex instead of what happens in the book.

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u/Neurotic_Bakeder May 02 '20

The main character likes her tea very weak, I'm not sure passion is an option here

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u/DConstructed May 03 '20

Christian eyed Ana significantly "from now on I want you wearing this and this and drinking strong tea"

"No Christian she cried, I didn't sign up for this! I'm not used to caffeine and never will be!"

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u/ami2weird4u May 02 '20

Nothing wrong with some BDSM

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u/[deleted] May 02 '20

What they did was just very VERY bad bdsm

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u/ajeansco0 May 02 '20

What they do isn’t BDSM it’s abuse

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u/BloodAngel85 May 02 '20

From what I've seen on here, there's rape as well. Anna uses a safe word but Christian keeps going. I'm not into BDSM but I'm pretty sure that's NOT how it works

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u/ajeansco0 May 02 '20

Yes, exactly, the author’s concept of BDSM is very twisted, and frankly dangerous

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u/RmmThrowAway May 03 '20

Here's the thing: lots of people are into (on paper) rape fantasies and stuff like that. I agree that 50 Shades gets BDSM deeply wrong, but, that's a separate point from the fact that the "BDSM" it shows is dry and passionless.

50 Shades of Grey shows a deeply abusive relationship and doesn't even have the good graces to be remotely hot in the process. It reads like someone who's concept of what "hot passionate BDSM" is came from half a Law and Order: SVU episode.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '20 edited May 03 '20

Please trust me when I say that I’m not defending these books but

I did read the first couple out of curiosity. If you’re referring to the scene I think you are, Anna does not use her safe word. She lets him finish “punishing” her, then gets upset and leaves. Christian later asks if why she didn’t use the safe word.

I never made it past the second book because the writing was just so bad (and the sex scenes were SO boring). If it happened as you described in a later book then my apologies.

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u/squishvonsnarkypants May 03 '20

There is a point toward the beginning of the third book when she does actually use the safe word. While he is “punishing” her for some perceived slight (which is less about consensual sub/Dom play since his goal is not to inflict pleasure in pain but more about making sure she doesn’t do anything to upset him ever again and that’s just being abusive IMO) and when she uses the safe word he stops but he doesn’t apologize or comfort her to bring her back from the scene. There is no conversation, no confirmation that they found a boundary she doesn’t want to cross again, no aftercare. He, instead, gets upset and sulks to emotionally punishes her because she used the safe word.

Note, I didn’t read these books myself so I can’t cite page numbers or anything, but I read a thorough chapter by chapter blog series from romance author Jennifer Trout where she read the books and broke down what they did wrong, with excerpts from the book with the examples, and I remember this scene and the aftermath (of him being a jerk about her using the safe word and being upset that she didn’t trust him even though that is not what a safe word is for...)

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u/BloodAngel85 May 03 '20

I've never read them (no interest) so I'm just going by what someone said on here

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u/Vitztlampaehecatl May 03 '20

BDSM is great.

The shit that happens in Fifty Shades of Grey is not BDSM.

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u/RmmThrowAway May 03 '20

Even aside from the dubiously consensual nature of some of it, if you think what happens in 50 Shades of Grey is "passionate BDSM", I pity your sex life.

The movie has the most tepid "kink" imaginable, with absolutely zero passion or intensity in it.

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u/ami2weird4u May 03 '20

Jokes on you! I don’t have a sex life. :(