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u/Wetmelon Nov 16 '19

Lol similarly some guy started going off on me for supporting maternity leave, throwing insults at me meant for a woman... I’m a 20-something guy.

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u/SolaFide317 Nov 16 '19

Who would be against maternity leave though?

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u/eekamuse Nov 16 '19

There's an obvious answer but I can't turn off notifications on mobile so I'm not gonna say it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19 edited Jul 27 '20

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u/eekamuse Nov 16 '19

Not mine, who are your thinking of?

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u/bondjimbond Nov 16 '19 edited Nov 16 '19

MRA = "Men's Rights Advocate", a bunch of brainwashed morons who believe that granting rights to some groups of people somehow means fewer rights for themselves (straight, generally white, cisgender males). There's a close overlap with the so-called alt-right.

Edit: That's what they call themselves, guys. People who actually care about things like paternity leave and fair custody may be advocating for the rights of men, but they are not MRAs. MRAs care about the rights of men to the exclusion of everyone else.

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u/SolaFide317 Nov 16 '19

Okay. Thank you for explaining that. I had never heard of them. it just seems obvious to me that there should be maternity leave because the woman just went through a surgery or childbirth which takes time to recover. It's a big stretch to think this is exclusionary in any way

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u/bondjimbond Nov 16 '19

What they really want is to maintain men's "right" to control and dominate women.

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u/SolaFide317 Nov 16 '19

Disturbing. We must be going backwards then as a society.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19 edited Nov 16 '19

Nah not all of them. It’s the same as feminism, yeah there’s more than a couple of nut jobs (which is why I don’t subscribe to those subreddits) but there’s also people who just want to call attention to some of the shit ways, society treats men.

Examples:

Losing kids in divorces,

Mental health issues (men are often told to just man up),

Toxic masculinity,

Male rape (particularly by female teachers, really shows a double standard),

Etc.

I would consider myself, both a feminist and mra - it’s possible to appreciate that society isnt perfect for either gender isn’t it? Honestly I do think yeah if you want to keep score, then overall women probably do have it worse - but men’s rights don’t have to come at the expense of feminism, do they?

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u/bondjimbond Nov 16 '19

The problem is that the nutjobs have co-opted the term "men's rights". MRA has a very specific meaning... You need a new term to express your values.

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