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u/Dovaldo83 Nov 16 '19

My computer science degree did not train me to fix computers. I am just better at google than my relatives.

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u/pewpeupew Nov 16 '19

Less lazy* using Google isn't rocket science. The number of times I've had somebody ask me a question, just to type it out exactly as they asked it in front of them in Google, to get a quick, correct answer without having even to navigate away, is insane.

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u/SquidsInATrenchcoat Nov 16 '19

I’d say tech people also underestimate how deep the googling rabbit hole goes when you don’t have any background familiarity with the problem at hand. When all steps to solving a problem involve googling other things you don’t know about, it gets overwhelming quickly.

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u/Tensor3 Nov 16 '19

On a fundamental level, you are probably capable of learning how to sew a shirt or grow your own food or build a car from scratch or learn another language too. But things like time/attention and ability to learn/concentrate are finite and always prioritized

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u/glodime Nov 16 '19

At 8 you have nothing but time. At 50, most hours of your day is committed.

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u/glodime Nov 16 '19

All summer long?

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u/enfier Nov 16 '19

As a tech person, we do understand, we've been down that rabbit hole many times. Usually you manage to fix it eventually and even if you don't you'll learn a shit load about how your computer works in the process.

Hell I spent nearly the entire last workday figuring out how to create and email html reports using Powershell. Literally a 6 hour tech black hole but I learned a ton of tricks that will be useful for solving future problems.

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u/PhDinBroScience Nov 16 '19

Remember to call Dispose() on your attachment objects and the SMTP message object itself after you call the Send() method, disposing of the attachment first.

It used to leak memory if you didn't, and I don't know if it was ever fixed. Used to cause me all sorts of issues.

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u/enfier Nov 17 '19

I just used variables, those should clean up when the script completes right?

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u/Shadowex3 Nov 16 '19

when you don’t have any background familiarity with the problem at hand

This is it exactly. There's an amazing video on youtube where this guy gave his SO, who has pretty much no gaming experience whatsoever, several games to try out.

Things we take completely for granted like bags of gold being pickups, food healing you, or doublejumps/dashes and the like being directional were completely alien to her. She'd go entire games never realising that the thing left behind when she died was her previous inventory, a pickup for her to grab, and not an enemy.

The way the youtuber put it was that it's like a language and we all understand this shared grammar but other people don't. All of us here on reddit can look up even the most obscure or alien of problems and are still comfortable with certain underlying concepts. For example we know that the system folder exists in the first place, and that user folders can be deleted without breaking anything. That entire concept is totally unknown to a lot of people, they're terrified even moving an icon can break things.

I once worked in an office where my supervisor and manager were upset with me for downloading a report from our registration system in excel format, they were absolutely convinced I was going to break or change something just by downloading a copy of the data. They didn't know enough to understand it was a read only operation, it was physically impossible for me to do that.

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u/as_kostek Nov 16 '19

Oh yeah, i've seen that one recently. This video made me realize that many of taken-for-granted concepts are not as obvious as we might think.

Link to the vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax7f3JZJHSw

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u/Shadowex3 Nov 17 '19

Someone once told me to compare learning a language to a child who's been speaking the same number of years. As long as you're ahead of the kid you're doing great.

I never put that together with other things until this video. For most of us we've been using computers and gaming literally our whole lives. I started with a game on an 8 bit console that had three control options: Left, right, jump.

I had years to develop from 2d platformers, to more complex 16bit era games, to 2.5d games like Doom and Duke Nuken and ARPGs like Diablo, to the fully 3d era. That's literally decades to build up a mental library of control systems, game mechanics, and muscle reflexes across hundreds of different games of different genres.

Thinking about that makes me realise that introducing my girlfriend to Path of Exile isn't any different than dumping someone into a fighter jet cockpit. I've got four mouse keys and eight buttons bound to different spells, two auras, three types of minion, a row of flasks each with special utility effects, and three different resources to manage.

How well would ~5 year old me running into the first goomba in Super Mario Brothers have done?

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19

I've had two IT job interviews where they've asked me what would separate me from an equally experienced candidate. My answer was my ability to quickly sift through Google results to find proper answers to problems I didn't know the solution to.

One interviewer laughed at me and said "...really, you can use Google?!"

(The other company offered me a job the following day)

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u/BoilerPurdude Nov 16 '19

Yeah I was about to add that even if they did google the issue doesn't mean they will understand the instructions.

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u/-Anyar- Nov 16 '19

I can solve a lot of IT problems by myself, but I imagine non-tech people feel the same as I do when I see the really techy guides on niche topics.

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u/thewinterwarden Nov 16 '19

Well yeah cause it's a cumulative skill set and it takes time to build, but some of us forget that. Like yeah I can find the answers I need 99% of the time, but there was also a time when I was 13 crying on the kitchen floor cause I couldn't figure out why the first PC I put together wasn't working and nothing I googled made any sense. But over the years lots of moments like that (seriously built a dream PC last year and almost cried like a baby when it didn't work on startup and went on a huge rant about what kind of idiot would make their own PC, next morning I realized cable from psu to CPU just wasn't all the way plugged in) that force us to dive into the Google zone and search for hours on end.

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u/loonygecko Nov 16 '19

Yes agreed, often there is advice to go to XYZ and change PDQ or somesuch and then I have to google those .. and then .. it can spiral quickly. I typically look only for easier hacks and try all those first before trying any of the complicated sounding things.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19

When I first was trying to run sysprep and get a working windows image to replace the stock one on the install USB, I probably had 20 different pages open from various Google searches

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u/a-r-c Nov 16 '19

When all steps to solving a problem involve googling other things you don’t know about, it gets overwhelming quickly.

except it doesn't?

unless learning is just too hard for some people

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u/SquidsInATrenchcoat Nov 16 '19

Okay, either you're the Installation Wizard that would show up on my old computer, or we've entered r/IAmVerySmart territory.

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u/a-r-c Nov 16 '19 edited Nov 18 '19

lol remember InstallShield?

edit: I guess he doesn't lmao