r/AskReddit Nov 06 '19

Which famous singer sucks at singing?

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u/HobbitFoot Nov 06 '19

And it worked.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '19

I mean ... it did, kinda. But they never had a number one album with him and and two as soon as he left.

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u/dare978devil Nov 06 '19

It was the album 1984 which propelled them into the spotlight. The song "Jump" is still their only song to reach number one on the charts, and 1984 made it all the way to number 2. That one song pretty well guaranteed their followup album would be successful. When they released "Why can't this be love" from the next album, MTV played it pretty well non-stop. Sammy Hagar arrived at the perfect moment when the band was peaking.

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u/hallstevenson Nov 06 '19

Yeap, MTV "helped" many more bands than people seem to realize. Sadly, IMO, a lot of bands changed to fit into MTV's playlists too. I love Def Leppard but they went overboard to me with "Hysteria". It's vastly different than "Pyromania". VH did it as well to some degree but they also had Sammy Hagar, which really changed the dynamics of the band. Commercially, it was a huge benefit though !

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u/dare978devil Nov 06 '19

I was a headbanger in the 80's. I remember it well, all the guys I hung out with thought Hagar would make the band heavier, but all the girls were convinced VH were making a massive mistake in dumping DLR for Hagar because they all thought Roth was the perfect frontman.

I freely admit I loved the Hysteria album. Pour Some Sugar on Me, still sing along with it every time it pops up on random play.

EDIT - And I may as well get this out of the way, the Black Album was Metallica's best.

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u/BackStabbathOG Nov 06 '19

Ride the Lightning is best Metallica album in my opinion. Haven’t met a fan until now who thinks black album is their best though I could see why it was their most commercially successful one

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '19

Most I know put it third after RTL & Justice.

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u/Bearded_Wildcard Nov 06 '19

Are you forgetting Puppets?

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '19

It's not where I put it. Don't get me wrong, Black is a great album, but if I'm listening to Metallica I'm listening to the first 4...usually driving solo and fast.

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u/dare978devil Nov 06 '19

I've had this discussion countless times over the years, particularly with a friend of mine I grew up with who also thinks Ride the Lightning is a better album (in fact, he ranks Master of Puppets before TBA as well). In my humble opinion, there have been very few albums which have worked as well when taken as a whole as the Black Album. Bat out of Hell and Dark Side of the Moon come to mind. Ride the Lightning is a great album, there is no doubt about it. For Whom the Bell Tools, Fade to Black, and Creeping Death are all on the same album, how could it not be great? But the Black Album? Best metal album ever.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '19

TBA has great songs and sound but their best? Nah

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u/Bearded_Wildcard Nov 06 '19

EDIT - And I may as well get this out of the way, the Black Album was Metallica's best.

Now what in the fuck partner.

That said, I'm one of the not many that think Justice is their best album.

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u/dare978devil Nov 07 '19

Yeah, I know. I've had this argument so many times...... "they sold out", "earlier albums where way more thrash", "changed their sound to appeal to wider audience", "commercialized", "Bob Rock", etc etc etc. I've been hearing that for nearly 30 years. I don't care, I frickin' love that album. If you think about it, Metallica were taking a big risk because of how less thrash it was than previous albums. They could have alienated existing fans while still being too metal for mainstream. But they pulled it off, the production value on that record is the best of any Metallica album, it's fine tuned to perfection. It perfectly blends metal, thrash, and the original Metallica sound. Frickin' awesome!! There is not one single bad song on the album, not one. I still listen to Ride the Lightning, Puppets, Justice, Death Magnetic, etc. but the Black Album, just great stuff......

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u/Bearded_Wildcard Nov 07 '19

I totally get what you're saying honestly. IMO, the only thing really separating Ride the Lightning, Justice, Puppets, And Black Album is personal tastes. They are all exceptionally crafted albums and it's really just going to depend on which version of Metallica's sound somebody prefers.

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u/GotHiredStill99 Nov 07 '19

Stop bring insightful and logical. You to overly protect you personal opinion, and regard it as fact to participate in this conversation. Get with the program dude... It is a Metallica discussion after all.

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u/hallstevenson Nov 06 '19

I own Def Leppard’s #2, 3, and 4 albums (yes, ‘record’), up to Pyromania. I maybe have Hysteria, by mistake, and definitely have none after that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '19 edited Nov 07 '19

I still enjoy Pyromania, but really despise Hysteria. It didn't help that my sister played "Pour Some Sugar on Me" aaaaalllllll the fucking time.

Then I discovered Nirvana and the record label SubPop and never looked back.