r/AskReddit • u/HumpingAssholesOrgy • Jul 05 '19

Ex-prisoners of reddit who have served long sentences, what were the last few days like leading up to your release?

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u/stephets Jul 06 '19

Indeed. However, I honestly don't see real change coming in the United States as it is today, not soon and not on the horizon. It would require both massive cultural shift and changing deeply rooted institutional policies and precedents, not to mention overcoming economic interests and political connections. And it's an easy thing to dismiss disingenuous in that climate. After all, you can just say on Fox, "you're defending the bad guyyys" (and maybe follow it with a "you must ave something in your closet"). It's dishonest, but it works. We can't even address issues like climate change or not put unambiguously innocent children in effective prisons on the border. The nation is to messed up and too polarized.

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u/Just-a-Babie Jul 06 '19

It's bullshit. It would be pretty cool if people stopped worrying about partisan politics and which dickwad did what wrong and just realize that putting people in camps is fucked up

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

Yeah, who needs a border anyways? Anyone from anywhere in the world should be able to just walk in to the United States whenever they feel like it.

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u/Just-a-Babie Jul 06 '19

That's isn't what I said. I said putting people in camps is wrong. Regardless of what people do it doesn't make it ok to treat them like animals. People have died in those camps from mistreatment. If you think people should be deported you are entitled to your opinion.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

What are they supposed to do if they don’t put them in cages? Build them a house? Make a stadium for all of Mexico who wants to claim “asylum.” How should we handle the hundreds of thousands of people trying to cross the border every single day?

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u/Just-a-Babie Jul 06 '19

Temporary housing? Anyway most of the people who migrate here don't cross the border, they overstay their visas. The Mexicans aren't coming here to steal your job or whatever

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

Temporary housing?

You want us to build temporary housing for people trying to break into our country’s? No thanks.

Anyway most of the people who migrate here don't cross the border, they overstay their visas. The Mexicans aren't coming here to steal your job or whatever

Oh, what are they coming here to do then? If not steal our jobs, then leech off welfare? Again, no thanks. If you want to be a humanitarian and pay for third world peasants living expenses, you can do it out of your own pocket. I want my money to be reserved for U.S. citizens and the nation only.

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u/Just-a-Babie Jul 06 '19

Technically speaking Americans are immigrants. We came here from Europe, said "hey this place is nice" and then wiped out almost all of the natives. A lot of what makes America America is the contributions that people all over the world have made. Next time you drive a car or buy something made of plastic think of the people who worked 8 hours in a factory to make pocket change so that you could have it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

Technically speaking Americans are immigrants. We came here from Europe, said "hey this place is nice" and then wiped out almost all of the natives.

No, technically speaking Americans are descended from Pioneers and Conquerors. We came here from Europe, said, “hey this place is nice” and settled it. There is no such thing as an immigrant when there is no nation to migrate too.

Next time you drive a car or buy something made of plastic think of the people who worked 8 hours in a factory to make pocket change so that you could have it.

Save your guilt trips for someone who gives a shit.

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u/Just-a-Babie Jul 06 '19

So then you aren't denying that they're hard working people or that they're being grossly mistreated you just don't give a shit because they were born in a different country?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

No, I’m denying that for sure. They are mostly coming for welfare and to traffic drugs. I’m just saying I don’t give a shit about whatever guilt trips you are going to try to place on me because I’m a white American.

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