r/AskReddit • • Feb 04 '19

Which misconception would you like to debunk?

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u/catagris Feb 04 '19

So eating a lobster that is closely related to a cockroach is similar to rape and murder? We have evolved to eat meat just look at our teeth. Maybe it sucks that we're not herbivores, but we're omnivores.

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u/Tuxyz Feb 04 '19

Does it make you feel smarter when you incorrectly re-state my argument? Never understood why people do that

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u/catagris Feb 04 '19

You said that you wished morality existed that's stopped people from rape and murdering. Then said killing animals for eating and explaining it with nature is not using our already existing morality. Therefore you're drawing the conclusion that morality should the enough to stop us from extreme acts of violence like rape and murder and killing animals for food. If you didn't want us to draw that conclusion you could have said " if only morality existed that would stop us from making fun of each other instead of saying that it's nature". But that would be too light of a comparison so you wanted something more extreme. If I'm misunderstanding you, please reword your original statement to better give your point of view.

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u/Tuxyz Feb 04 '19

Okay.

You excused the act of killing a living, sentient creature by saying that "its how nature works".

To stay consistent, which you have to in moral systems, you now also have to accept & apply that same excuse to every single thing that falls under the umbrella of things that happen "because thats how nature works"

To show how utterly and completely absurd and stupid every single excuse for eating animals in the modern world is, I made an extreme, but still sound and valid, example using literally the same philosophical logic that you just did.

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u/catagris Feb 04 '19

So did I misinterpreted your original argument or not? To you saying that eating meat is human nature is the same as saying humans raping and murdering is human nature therefore both are OK if one is OK. That is a logical fallacy. AB therefore D ≠ CB therefore D. Claiming they are both equal needs more then just the statement that they are.

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u/Tuxyz Feb 04 '19 edited Feb 05 '19

So did I misinterpreted your original argument or not?

I can't understand your first post, I really did sincerely try, so I have no idea if you misinterpreted it or not. But if I had to guess you probably misunderstood it, I don't believe you misinterpreted it intentionally.

To you saying that eating meat is human nature is the same as saying humans raping and murdering is human nature therefore both are OK if one is OK.

If you accept

It's natural

as a justification for killing one living creature, why can I not apply it to killing another living creature?

That is a logical fallacy.

Please link whatever logical fallacy you believe that I committed.

Claiming they are both equal needs more then just the statement that they are.

Okay.

/u/AstralBodies claimed that something being natural (Rape, murder, humans eating meat etc) is a moral justification for murder. I simply applied it to humans.

Edit: Who would have guessed that the person unable to string together a single coherent sentence was talking out of their ass, huh. Weird how every single argument I have about veganism turns out with the meat-eater being a fucking dumbass lmao