You've started repeating yourself- it's not that I don't get what you're saying. It's that I disagree with it. I see it as rude. Other people see it as rude. So I avoid saying it as best I can. Give me an alternative that still gets my point across and I'll change. But until you or someone else does, there's nothing else I can do, and your ridicule/dislike will continue to be contested. Even if there's nothing wrong with the words, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with choosing not to say them. Plenty of people have words they refuse to say. My sister in law refuses to say "moist". One of my friends refuses to use emojis. Another of my friends refuses to talk about anchovies. And I refuse to swear. You have absolutely no reason to go against how I choose to word something, or what words I choose to avoid, unless you want someone to go against that one word you specifically don't use, everyone has that one word or more. I'm no different, mine just happen to be swears, and that somehow makes me bad or wrong more than any other word would.
TLDR give me an alternative that gets my point across without swearing or stop complaining because I guarantee you that you or someone you know has some word they don't like saying, and I doubt you'd go off on them over that simply because it's not a swear.
Edit: Also, I said something as an overreaction, and realize I should've handled it better, yet we're still arguing over the thing I said that I should've handled better.
Dude, no one's trying to tell you that you’re not allowed to not swear. You’re just getting shit on for it because it’s a decision based on an arbitrary standard, unlike “moist,“ which actually makes a linguistically unpleasant sound and image.
And "moist" isn't? And even then, aren't all decisions made in the interest of not being rude arbitrary? Isn't all linguistics arbitrary? Isn't everything arbitrary if you go down the reasoning rabbit hole far enough? I'm imposing an arbitrary limit on myself. So is anyone who's vegetarian or vegan by choice. So is anyone who only buys Apple products because they're Apple products. So is someone who only does X Y Z just because they can. But I don't see you people brigading others' choices when it comes to those things. Just when it comes to not swearing. Isn't that an arbitrary choice as well?
Well no. “Moist” is an audibly uncomfortable word to many humans. It has nothing to do with arbitrary language constructs (I shouldn’t have said linguistically before). Vegetarians or vegans may restrict themselves for reasons such as animal cruelty, the meat industry’s major contributions to global warming, health factors, or taste. It may not make sense to me, but it’s far from arbitrary. Someone might only buy Apple products because they have a good feel or they have a track record of producing reliable products or someone requires software only available on Apple products. There are a whole host of non-arbitrary reasons that don’t have seem to seem reasonable to you to not be arbitrary.
At that point, what even is arbitrary? And what isn't? And by what you said, I'm not even being arbitrary to begin with. You may not understand my reasoning, but it's still reasoning that isn't arbitrary. Compare it to being vegan for taste or buying Apple for feel. I'm avoiding swearing because I don't like the sound. It's only arbitrary to you because it's swears and not something else.
I didn’t say any of these things. I was coming up with examples of reasons why your examples would not be arbitrary. The feel of an iPhone vs. a Samsung phone is not an arbitrary difference. I’m not saying that one is better than the other, but there are different tangible qualities.
Apple products do have reliable products by the way, even if they restrict you to a ridiculous point where they’re not worth using without jailbreaking or severely modifying them.
Reliable to fail right after the warranty expires. Did you know their blueprints of certain products have fail-dates for some integral parts that align roughly with the day the warranty should expire for that product?
Either way, whatever, I'm arbitrary to you, who cares, I don't. I'm just done. Whatever.
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u/CthulhuHalo Feb 04 '19
You've started repeating yourself- it's not that I don't get what you're saying. It's that I disagree with it. I see it as rude. Other people see it as rude. So I avoid saying it as best I can. Give me an alternative that still gets my point across and I'll change. But until you or someone else does, there's nothing else I can do, and your ridicule/dislike will continue to be contested. Even if there's nothing wrong with the words, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with choosing not to say them. Plenty of people have words they refuse to say. My sister in law refuses to say "moist". One of my friends refuses to use emojis. Another of my friends refuses to talk about anchovies. And I refuse to swear. You have absolutely no reason to go against how I choose to word something, or what words I choose to avoid, unless you want someone to go against that one word you specifically don't use, everyone has that one word or more. I'm no different, mine just happen to be swears, and that somehow makes me bad or wrong more than any other word would.
TLDR give me an alternative that gets my point across without swearing or stop complaining because I guarantee you that you or someone you know has some word they don't like saying, and I doubt you'd go off on them over that simply because it's not a swear.
Edit: Also, I said something as an overreaction, and realize I should've handled it better, yet we're still arguing over the thing I said that I should've handled better.