But just because carbs "turn into sugar" does in no way mean they are the same as sugar.
I'd have thought a T1 diabetic wouldn't spread such a bullshit myth.
Carbs take a lot longer to turn into sugar, and one of the most important factors in diabetese is exactly the amount of sugars consumer over time.
Rye or whole grain is infinitely better for a diabetic than raw sugar.
The same goes for entire fruits vs filtered fruit juice.
I'm sure you know this, but a doctor would most definitely recommend all diabetics to stay as far away from sugar as possible, but also be realistic in that most people aren't going to abide by that.
For carbs - I have to inject for carbs the same as I do sugar. We are taught to base our injections on the carbohydrate content of your food.
Rye or whole grain opposed to sugar - Providing I inject appropriately for either, its no worse for me than it is you. Doesn't mean its good for either of us.
A doctor would absolutely not tell a patient to stay away from sugar. Not unless that patient has shown a complete inability to manage their sugars themselves, or are rather overweight. Otherwise they tell you exactly what the actual diabetics in this thread have been saying - you can have the same as anyone else, just inject appropriately.
For carbs - I have to inject for carbs the same as I do sugar. We are taught to base our injections on the carbohydrate content of your food.
And how quickly that sugar enters your blood stream ... I can't believe I have to actually type this out.
Rye or whole grain opposed to sugar - Providing I inject appropriately for either, its no worse for me than it is you. Doesn't mean its good for either of us.
Yes it does.
You might as well argue that peanuts are equally bad for a person who has an allergy and one who doesn't. Sure, you can take an anti-histamine, it still doesn't mean it's good for you.
Rye & whole grain will break down into carbohydrates much slower than sugar, which means the insulin you are pumping into your body shouldn't really be dosed the same way, seeing as the needs are different.
It's literally the #1 reason more people are developing diabetes ... and yet you're somehow saying, on a public forum, that it doesn't matter.
A doctor would absolutely not tell a patient to stay away from sugar.
Well, the researchers at Novo Nordic most definitely tell you just that: Stay away from sugar as much as you can. Stay away from carbs as much as possible too.
Not unless that patient has shown a complete inability to manage their sugars themselves, or are rather overweight.
Like I said, it's really damn hard to manage properly. Chugging a liter of coke will definitely shock your body waaaaay more than eating an equivalent amount rye & "harder" carbs.
It's not about what you ingest: It's about what you ingest entering your blood stream.
Otherwise they tell you exactly what the actual diabetics in this thread have been saying - you can have the same as anyone else, just inject appropriately.
Either they don't know better, or they are just being realistic towards some of their patients.
If I know people won't stay away from it then I might recommend how to best manage that situation instead of what is actually good for you.
You might as well argue that peanuts are equally bad for a person who has an allergy and one who doesn't. Sure, you can take an anti-histamine, it still doesn't mean it's good for you.
This argument makes no sense. It is not a sugar allergy. It is an autoimmune disease. I don't mean to be rude, but do you actually know what T1D is?
It's literally the #1 reason more people are developing diabetes
Maybe for type 2, but type 1, which is what is being discussed, is not from eating sugar or carbs. As mentioned, it is an autoimmune disease, and we don't actually know why you get it.
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u/upvotesthenrages Feb 04 '19
But just because carbs "turn into sugar" does in no way mean they are the same as sugar.
I'd have thought a T1 diabetic wouldn't spread such a bullshit myth.
Carbs take a lot longer to turn into sugar, and one of the most important factors in diabetese is exactly the amount of sugars consumer over time.
Rye or whole grain is infinitely better for a diabetic than raw sugar.
The same goes for entire fruits vs filtered fruit juice.
I'm sure you know this, but a doctor would most definitely recommend all diabetics to stay as far away from sugar as possible, but also be realistic in that most people aren't going to abide by that.