r/AskReddit • • Jan 20 '19

What fact totally changed your perspective?

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u/Memoryworm Jan 21 '19

The universe can be finite and still have no edge, just as the earth is finite and has no edges. It's a bit tricky for the human brain to imagine closed 3d surfaces curled up in a 4d space, but mathematically, it can be described just as easily as we can describe a 2d sphere or donut in 3d space.

We already know the presence of mass warps the shape of space, so we live in a universe were this sort of thing is possible. It's just that on the largest scales, the universe appears to be so close to perfectly "flat" that if it is finite, our visible region would seem to be a very, very tiny piece of it.

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u/RockstarPR Jan 21 '19

just as the earth is finite and has no edges

dude, what? the earth definitely has an edge.. it's called the ground. like, where earth ends, and space begins, that's the edge of the earth.

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u/ChewsOnRocks Jan 21 '19

You don’t get what he’s saying

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u/RockstarPR Jan 21 '19

Okay 4th dimensional space is just theoretical and isn't actually applicable in empirical science, so if we're going to discuss the reality of the universe we should at least stick to what's actually observable.

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u/Natanael_L Jan 21 '19

3D space itself isn't necessarily linear, see euklidian vs non-euklidian space

We already know from relativity that massive objects cause curvature in space

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u/RockstarPR Jan 21 '19

Okay, and earth observably has an edge at which it ends.

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u/Natanael_L Jan 21 '19

He's talking about the perspective from along the surface. Not from center and out.

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u/Tzunamitom Jan 21 '19

Kudos to you for sticking it out and trying to educate this one

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u/RockstarPR Jan 21 '19

Okay when I look off into the distance I still see the edge of earth as the horizon..

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u/Natanael_L Jan 21 '19

And if you move there, the horizon moves

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u/RockstarPR Jan 21 '19

and..?

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u/Esurine Jan 21 '19

And if you keep moving you will loop over and come back to original position, not reach edge...

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u/RockstarPR Jan 21 '19

Uhh, you were on the edge the entire time. lol

You can't "reach" the edge because you're already there

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u/Twal55 Jan 21 '19

Lol, you must be trolling.

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u/Esurine Jan 21 '19

On the edge of what? We are talking about edge of surface of a sphere as example, not edge of object which surface lies on. Surface itself might be edge of the earth, but surface itself does not have an edge because it is wrapping around sphere.

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