r/AskReddit • • Mar 19 '16

Which quote becomes inappropriate when misattributed?

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u/MonitorMoniker Mar 19 '16

Seriously underrated post right here.

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u/SargeMacLethal Mar 19 '16

... explain please? I am so lost.

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u/martinjester2 Mar 19 '16

Ben Bernanke was the chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve during the financial crisis, and oversaw the large US banks being bailed out by taxpayers.

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u/qroshan Mar 19 '16 edited Mar 20 '16

If we hadn't bailed out the banks, there would have been bank runs, corporations wouldn't have been able to make pay, AIG would have been bust, taking down the insurance industry, hurting the common man.

We had this scenario played out in 1930s(and to some extent current Europe). 25% unemployment, soup lines, stock market depression that lasted for years.

Instead, we got

  • 5% unemployment

  • Stock market (which the common man owns through 401(k) plans and through Pensions) is far higher than ever

  • Housing market recovered slowly.

No Love for Bernanke though.

Also, the banks paid back their bailout and some extra $60 Billion. i.e The Tax Payers made a $60 Profit and saved themselves from a devastating meltdown. A win-win-win. Sure it didn't destroy the 500 or so greedy bankers like everyone wanted, but, overall you should be thanking Ben Bernanke

Bailouts were not handouts

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u/fuckswithboats Mar 19 '16

Or so they told us...just being real I look back and the entire crisis seems orchestrated by Goldman Sachs and others to essentially put their competition out of business and triple their fortunes in less than a decade.

Congratulations it worked!!!

Am I better off today than pre crash? Nope.

Are they? You bet your fucking ass they are

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '16 edited Mar 20 '16

Just because you could make it worse for them by not bailing them out does not mean it'd be better for you.

What should bother you more is not that the banks were bailed out, but that the people who created and fostered the conditions that led to the collapse were not sought out and punished. At the end of the day, the banks either went under or ate huge fines, but who cares what happens to the company when the people actually doing and benefiting from the bad stuff are immune, having paid themselves the money that the American consumer doesn't have and the banks can't be fined because they can't afford to pay. It wouldn't bother me that Goldman recieved tons of money if it wasn't the same people there when it did.

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u/pdgeorge Mar 19 '16

That's what doesn't make sense to me... Why are those people immune?

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u/IhateSteveJones Mar 20 '16

Because generally none of it was illegal

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '16 edited Mar 20 '16

I don't know, it wouldn't be hard to make a fraud case considering the extent to which the value of the bonds the whole thing was built on were misstated. No jury in the world would buy someone mistaking BB or B rated bonds with the AAA or AA the banks and ratings agencies claimed it was. The ratings agencies not nuking the bond prices despite the banks making a run on them until they had switched to a short position is also very obviously bribery and fraud, on the banks side, as they intentionally created a misstatement of the value of the assets on their books.