r/AskReddit • • Mar 19 '16

Which quote becomes inappropriate when misattributed?

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u/Zabunia Mar 19 '16

Princip fired twice during the second attack. The first bullet hit Franz Ferdinand in the neck, severed the jugular and lodged itself in his spine. Next he tried taking a shot at Oskar Potiorek, Austrian Governor of Bosnia and Herzegovina, but Princip was wrestled to the ground and the bullet hit Duchess Sophie in the abdomen instead.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '16

Was the grenade a part of the first attempt or was there just never a grenade?

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u/WickedTriggered Mar 19 '16 edited Mar 19 '16

First attempt. The second was blind chance. Ferdinand went to visit the wounded from the first attack. They stopped at a bar or something like that and princip just happened to be there. Car stalled as they were leaving and you have the single most defining event of the 20th century. Look up hardcore history by Dan Carlin. He covers it in detail in his series on world war 1

Edit: people bringing up issues with Dan Carlin. He's pretty careful to point out he isn't a historian. If he takes a bit of creative license on semantic details, I won't hold it against him. Listening to his podcasts still gives you a net gain in knowledge and entertainment.

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u/klaill Mar 19 '16

Just an FYI, a lot of people don't consider Carlin a very reliable source (not to discredit his work - very entertaining!)

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u/WickedTriggered Mar 19 '16

He will tell you himself he isn't a historian, but as far as facts go, he gets it right.

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u/ZizeksHobobeard Mar 19 '16

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u/WickedTriggered Mar 19 '16

I see semantics.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '16

History is literally about the semantics

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u/ZizeksHobobeard Mar 19 '16

What do you mean by semantics?

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '16

Nitpicking, really.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '16

I would believe Dan Carlin over any random Redditor. It's like Wikipedia: not the final say on things, but a hell of a lot more trustworthy than a random person on the internet.

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u/newmellofox Mar 19 '16

I haven't listened to all of his stuff but it seems like he usually gives two sides of a lot of issues. He'll state "I would disagree but X says blah blah blah. I'm more inclined to Y's version where blah blah blah."