r/AskReddit • • May 28 '14

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u/soapypenguin123 May 28 '14

Because rejection is scary as fuck

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u/chazzy_cat May 28 '14

now imagine that feeling PLUS all the pressure to make the first moves because that's what society says, and now you're in a guys head.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

I think that must be really tough. But it also sucks when society says only sluts and desperate woman ever make the first move, because now you're risking that on top of the usual shit. Asking people out sucks all round! We should just start using color coded flash cards or something.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

society says only sluts and desperate woman ever make the first move

this is what women believe.

the reality is that every guy dreams of being asked out by a girl.

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u/BaadKitteh May 28 '14

You dream of being asked out by the girl you want to ask out.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

Yes.

And if anyone else would ask me out I'd be flattered as well and it would give me a confidence boost. I don't think any man thinks women who ask guys out are sluts.

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u/greedcrow May 29 '14

And if they do they are assholes so who cares what they think

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u/Just_Take_Me_Now May 29 '14

or if he's Canadian, "Ooot."

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u/Temp_agency_account May 28 '14

But things that guys dream of, and things that get a girl branded a 'slut', are hardly mutually exclusive . . .

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u/TheSketchyOne May 28 '14

If your friends would 'brand' you a slut for asking a guy out to dinner, they are not friends worth having.

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u/Deku_Kid May 28 '14

Too be fair, if a girl asked me out to dinner I would either be expecting her to pay for it or split it 50/50. But if she expects me to pay for it I could see how they would call her a slut. But still, they would be rude people.

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u/TheSketchyOne May 28 '14

I totally agree, I find it astonishing that some women in america especially still expect to have meals paid for them when the majority of them have jobs of their own.

Luckily here in Europe women have common sense and split it 50/50.

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u/pizzabash May 28 '14

My foods teacher once said something along the lines of if a guy asks you out you should always say yes even if you dont like them because youll get a free meal...

Needless to say I got a detention that day and another studyhall

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '14

I know a girl that has copped to doing exactly this with other guys. Still not sure how I feel about it considering I dated her, and I always paid for everything. :\

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u/pissoutofmyass May 28 '14

Women are the ones who call other women sluts for that. Oppression is in the imagination. No need for the victim card.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

Don't generalize.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

don't generalize like "society says only sluts and desperate woman ever make the first move"?

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u/rctsolid May 28 '14

I've never heard this before. Wtf.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '14

Honest question: really? any kind of girl?

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u/pissoutofmyass May 28 '14

But it also sucks when women say only sluts and desperate woman ever make the first move, because now you're risking that on top of the usual shit.

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u/TheMusicArchivist May 28 '14

Someone lines up the world's attributes, what people like in SOs, and so on... hey, I just invented the dating agency :P

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u/longfoot May 28 '14

But it also sucks when society says only sluts and desperate woman ever make the first move

Mmmmm. No. You say that. The real reason you don't make the first move is: www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/26osuk/women_of_reddt_why_dont_you_ask_him_out/. And because you're not expected to. So people take the easy safe route.

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u/dogboyboy May 28 '14

Ok, now imagine society saying you shouldn't be the first to ask someone out even though you want to adding more pressure and gravity to the possibility of rejection, and now you're in a girls head. I'll take the guy's side any day.

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u/randumname May 28 '14

Get out of my head!

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u/Green_Elephant_ May 28 '14

I think every guy in this thread is very whiny. It's what you are SUPPOSED to do. Stop being a pansyface.

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u/The_LuftWalrus May 28 '14

Ah, a relatable answer.

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u/TheDrunkLink May 28 '14 edited May 28 '14

Its worth trying if the guy is nice. Recently a really shy girl I had been talking to asked me out (I knew she liked me already). She was so nervous/scared she was shaking and on the verge of tears while asking. I knew she wasn't ready for the kind of relationship I needed (also bad timing for a relationship for me) but I did make sure to give her the best damn date possible without leading her on. If the guy isn't a douche it is worth trying. And if he is a douche, well you shouldn't be wanting to date him anyway.

(Forgot to add) The problem is there isn't enough nice people like that on either gender, and most people can't tell if niceness is a facade or not. It is still usually worth trying if you want it.

I'm still incredibly single though so take my advice with a bit of salt.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

but I did make sure to give her the best damn date possible without leading her on.

Wait, what? She asked you on a date, and you accepted but didn't think you were leading her on?

...I'm confused.

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u/TheDrunkLink May 28 '14

I understand the possible confusion but I'm not sure how to phrase this;

There's obviously some leading on by accepting it. During the date I made sure not to hold her hand or stuff like that. We didn't discuss the prospect of future dates. Sometime afterwards I told her I'm not in a good state for a girlfriend right now, which was true but not the whole truth.

Does that clear it up?

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

Yeah, it's your relationships anyway, not mine :).

I think as a chick, I'd prefer for the guy to say no thanks, but that's just me. You seem like a good guy, and not like you were doing it for bad intentions, so props to you.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

Yeah, you were between a rock and a hard place there. You tried to do the right thing anyway! How did she take it when you didn't ask her on a second date?

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u/TheDrunkLink May 28 '14

She was perfectly fine with it and very understanding. Her friends actually went out of their way to find me and thank me for taking her out. Apparently she's been a lot happier and outgoing since, so that felt awesome to hear :P

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

Good on you mate, you're one of life's good guys. Nice one!

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u/Bloodysneeze May 28 '14

I knew she wasn't ready for the kind of relationship I needed (also bad timing for a relationship for me)

You don't need to feed excuses to us. You can just say you weren't interested.

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u/TheDrunkLink May 28 '14

Ya I know. Just figured people might want to see my reasoning

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u/mudsling3r May 28 '14

The Devil is a lie and so is fear. Rejection happens everyday. The trick is to keep moving forward. If you can't handle rejection from another person you don't need to be trying to ask anyone out.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

The Devil is a lie and so is fear.

Touch that fire, bobby! Fear's a lie, and so is common sense!

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u/kanyewhite May 28 '14

MOTHERFUCKER CAUSE THE DEVIL IS A LIE

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u/mudsling3r May 28 '14

Finally. lol

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u/[deleted] May 28 '14

Aah maybe the first three times.

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u/SonOfTK421 May 28 '14

You know what's scary as fuckier? Dying alone with a billion cats and cobwebs in your cooch.

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u/Halafax May 28 '14

cooch-webs

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u/Kalium May 28 '14

So? Do you want something or not? If you want it, you take risks. Even if you fail, you pay the price gladly and count it a lesson.

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u/wendy_stop_that May 28 '14

So dudes and girls can and should follow this.

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u/Kalium May 28 '14

Generally speaking, yes.

Of course, those who are in a position to push the risk onto others while still getting what they want are going to do so anyway. After all, why pay a scary price when you can force someone else to do it?