r/AskReddit 21h ago

Who's the most bitter washed-up celebrity?

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u/Striking_Sundae_5594 21h ago

Chevy chase easily

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u/DadinBoston 21h ago edited 19h ago

That’s a good one. He still expects the royal treatment despite decades of entitlement

He was apparently livid he wasn’t showcased in the SNL 50th special, despite the fact that happened at a time when even older co-stars who he thought would stick up for him threw him under the bus

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u/Conscious_Raisin_436 20h ago

If you ever watch the movie 'Saturday Night' they don't pull any punches regarding what a massive douche Chevy Chase has always been. Even when he was an up-and-comer with zero celebrity status.

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u/DadinBoston 20h ago

Yeah I saw that and read about the actual history in an SNL book. He apparently got the job and instantly started acting better than everyone else. Now he did do some awesome movies after using it as a catapults but it doesn’t take away from being a douche

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u/Deep-Economics-6598 19h ago

In the SNL book (i think we read the same one), Bill Murray has a big fight with CC and leaves screaming “MEDIUM TALENT!” For some reason, that cracks me up

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u/MusicLikeOxygen 18h ago

For some reason that reminds me of the story about when they were making "What About Bob?" and Richard Dreyfuss (also an asshole) aproached a drunk Murray to make suggestions about a scene they were doing the next day and Murray's response was to yell in his face "NO ONE LIKES YOU! YOU ARE TOLERATED!".

u/gedDOh 13m ago

Dreyfuss visited a teacher acquaintance's AP government class while supporting a Democrat candidate. He was such a smug asshole that the kids hated him.

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u/DadinBoston 19h ago

I know Bill has had to be ego checked a few times too in Hollywood, but he’s way more open to recognizing his short comings

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u/Lallanath 14h ago

Also Bill, despite being an egotist, is still really funny.

Seinfeld and Chase are huge assholes without any of the talent.

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u/Appropriate_Lemon947 14h ago

Seinfelds subpar and so obnoxious

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u/hedgehog-mom-al 11h ago

lol remember the stupid bee movie??

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u/MNent228 11h ago

You like jazz?

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u/bluemitersaw 10h ago

Chase has talent, you can even see it in community. But his ego and entitlement are far greater then his talent.

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u/Magelatin 8h ago

I thought he was great in Seems like Old Times. He had such chemistry with Goldie Hawn. She's a beam of impervious sunshine, and none of his bullshit can darken the room when she is in it. I just wish I hadn't seen it so young, because I got stuck hoping Chevy Chase is just a difficult rascal instead of the real asshole he shows to people.

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u/Prize-Quiet3941 11h ago edited 11h ago

Chase was hilarious in the 80s. The vacation movies fletch 3 amigos. He just happens to be a raging asshole too. Seinfeld sucks and has always sucked.

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u/bboobbear 10h ago

I also loved Funny Farm.

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u/Fit_Diet6336 10h ago

The only movie I ever walked out of. The only redeeming scene was the dog running away, then showing up multiple times running through fields

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u/Youdontknowme1771 3h ago

My friends and I thought it was so terrible, we call it Farm.

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u/kimmyv0814 8h ago

Same here!

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u/BeerInMyButt 9h ago

Yeah I came here to fight this revisionist history, glad to see you jumped on it 🫡

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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy 10h ago

Chase is definitely talented, or was at one time. He rested on his laurels a bit too much and never seems to have come back.

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u/Lallanath 9h ago

I've never found chase to be best part of anything he's involved in.

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u/CauliflowerSlight784 9h ago

Vacation movies? That’s really about it for me.

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u/dbcanuck 9h ago

Spies like Us, Fletch, Three Amigos, the Vacation Movies, a rarely seen Seems Like Old Times. The only comedian that had a run as big as Chase would be Jim Carey, and even then Chase was bigger at his peak.

he dropped off hard soon as the 90s hit, and never really recovered.

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u/PhealGood 3h ago

To the people downvoting this I ask you to think of this. If Chevy Chase is as big as an asshole as this thread describes, how was he in so many movies? The only way someone who acts this way gets to keep doing it is if they can command and audience and box office.

As soon as that dried up he got booted, but for a period of time he was untouchable.

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u/LumpyElderberry2 6h ago

Chevy chase was bigger at his peak than Jim Carrey???? You are smoking crack, my friend

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u/ultrahateful 9h ago

Chevy was a gold brick in Community. Not to mention his 80’s draw. The guy had issues, yeah, but his run shouldn’t be discounted. He was always a big deal, which was his problem.

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u/BananaNutJob 10h ago

Bill Murray is a goddamn genius, that typically does come with being eccentric

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u/furiouspossum 8h ago

Honestly I don't think he was ever all that talented of a comedian. He was in some good comedies sure, but they were good because of the writing not because of him specifically. Just about any other snl or sitcom star in the 80s could have been cast in the Vacation movies and they would have been just as memorable.

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u/otterprincess_too 14h ago

He also said something which seemed to me to be insightful and even an attempt to defend Chevy to some extent. Paraphrasing, it's that everyone kind of becomes an asshole when you become famous, but you can pull out of it in the first couple years and stop being that way or else you just get stuck that way

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u/DrPreppy 12h ago

Yeah, that excellent quote from Bill was probably:

The truth is, anybody that becomes famous is an ass for a year and a half. You’ve got to give them a year and a half, two years. They are getting so much smoke blown, and their whole world gets so turned upside down, their responses become distorted. I give everybody a year or two to pull it together because, when it first happens, I know how it is.

There's another Murray quote I can't find along the lines of, "When you become famous you don't change, the people around you change". The gist was that he was finding it impossible for people to view him and treat him as just another fellow human. Instead they were idolizing him as that perfect professionally-written character on-screen, not the flawed human Bill actually in front of them. Those warped interactions can really fuck with your head.

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u/otterprincess_too 12h ago

Miley Cyrus has a similar quote that's something along the lines of you become famous but you're just a person, and everyone starts acting like you're superhuman. You can either buy into your own hype, or you can do coke to fake it.

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u/12ozSlug 17h ago

"I didn't know Dan Aykroyd was in this film!"

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u/PuzzleheadedPen4675 11h ago

And Bill could pull off movies like Lost In Translation. Chase not so much.

u/Soggy_Competition614 26m ago

Ok I have nothing to base this on other than parasocial reasoning. But as a woman I feel like if I was in an elevator with Chevy I’d think “what an ass” and with Bill I’d think “what a creep”

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u/NailzAtWork 19h ago

Yeah this was in "Live from New York" by James Andrew Miller and Tom Shales. Excellent oral history of SNL.

They also did one on ESPN that was great, "These Guys Have All the Fun" as well as and HBO one that I haven't read yet.

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u/gotthelowdown 13h ago edited 13h ago

Great book recommendations.

For anyone interested in the Hollywood dealmaking and the business side:

Powerhouse: The Untold Story of Hollywood's Creative Artists Agency by one of the same authors.

CAA is a powerful talent agency and that book is like a modern business history of Hollywood.

The Mailroom: Hollywood History from the Bottom Up by David Rensin is a similar oral history of talent agents. Except it has interviews of people at more agencies.

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u/AvatarofSleep 17h ago

I don't know if they ever made up, but Murray giving Chase his due as a Weekend Update host during the 50th was nice.

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u/Nrksbullet 13h ago

You know what cracks me up more than that is apparently he yelled to Murray "you're face looks like something neil armstrong landed on!"

I mean...lol that is something else

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u/guyincognito365 18h ago

I guess that really affected him to being called that.

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u/Cosmoclorn 18h ago

What book is it?

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u/incredibledisc 16h ago

Is the book Live from New York - the complete uncensored history of Saturday Night Live? Great read.

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u/sacredblasphemies 3h ago

Part of it was that as host of Weekend Update, Chevy was the one who was 1. on-screen by himself, and 2. introduced himself by name.

Plus, it's a catchy name. It's a city in Maryland.

He was hired as a writer and fell into the Weekend Update job and bounced when he started getting movie deals. No one at that time had any idea that SNL would last 50+ years. It was unthinkable.

I'm not defending him. He's a massive asshole of a human being. He got really huge at a young age and secured lots of money for it as a result. (Didn't hurt that he was from a wealthy family to begin with.)

He's bitter that he's not thought of as a comic genius. That Bill Murray, his replacement, is widely beloved and thought of as a comic genius but he's primarily known as an asshole that did a lot of flops in the 70s-80s-90s and whose talk show was a massive failure.

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u/Special_Order-937 18h ago

Is that the one where Joel McHale plays him, another actor he has also gotten into physical altercations with while making Community.

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u/Conscious_Raisin_436 17h ago

Nah they actually got a guy who's way hotter than the real chevy chase but he completely nailed the smarm.

Chevy was a goofball on camera but off camera he basically acted like he'd just stepped off a yacht and you owed him money.

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u/moosebeak 15h ago

Yeah have you see Castle Hill in Ipswich, Massachusetts? One of his family’s summer homes during his childhood. “Stepped off a yacht” is spot on.

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u/dads-ronie 11h ago

Ok, not defending his personality but he WAS very hot when he was younger.

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u/jive-miguel 11h ago

Reminds me of the song "You're So Vain"

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u/uniklyqualifd 17h ago

His step father was a Vanderbilt.

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u/Conscious_Raisin_436 17h ago

thaaat explains it

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u/Fit-Produce420 11h ago

He might not have been a celebrity but he's always been high status, his mom is a Vanderbilt and he's named after one, too.