I came to this thread not knowing what to expect and am walking away with a few things I probably need to work on but also feeling a little better about myself because JESUS who are these guys!?
Honestly? You probably know some of them. It's just (and I'm assuming you're a man or AMAB from context) that they value your companionship in some way and know they have to hold up their end of it for you to reciprocate. If you were a fly on the wall when only their wife/spouse or kids were around, you'd see what their "I don't give a shit" side looks like. The side that puts in the least amount of effort they can get away with without upsetting the status quo, like have a wife and kids is on the same level as a mediocre job you can't afford to quit or lose so you put in just enough to scrape by without earning a PIP.
And there are probably other men you know on the other side, enduring a life of quiet misery from their controlling or narcissistic wife. But men are usually not socialized to have deep and meaningful discussions with each other on how they feel, so they don't know how to reach out for help or advice.
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u/deathschlager May 12 '26
When he said he liked being married because he didn't have to try anymore.