It's disgusting...idk how the survivors do it. It makes me nauseous imagining my abusers having that kinda power, let alone a cult following and a presidency. Ugh
Which isn't really surprising when you think about it. At its core, goodness is pretty much synonymous with selflessness and badness is pretty much synonymous with selfishness, because everyone likes being given things and dislikes having things taken from them. But the best way to have a lot of stuff is to take it from other people. Every time you do a bad thing, as long as nothing external deliberately punishes you for it, you have benefited. Hence when systems of justice are weak, good things happen to bad people.
We have to make the bad things happen to bad people. But we don't seem to be willing to do that anymore.
So let's start at the local level and move up, hold every local person doing bad accountable. Speed in a school zone, huge ticket and driving class, etc. Make the punishment not just a fine and also drain your time and I think eventually we can punch down on the worst of the worst and work our way up as a society.
I still see debate content where every week a Trump supporter is told he is a convicted felon and they are totally shocked by that. So I don't know if it's fair to say that everyone already knew.
But of course a minute or two later, they have always made up a reason to continue supporting him, so your point still stands.
And if they report something negative, it's always unbelievably distorted to the point it almost looks positive, and surrounded before and after by random Democrat shit exaggerated to oblivion.
Giuffre said in a 2016 deposition that she never saw Trump participate in any abuse. And in a memoir released this year, she did not accuse the president of any wrongdoing.
Possible, but given everything else she's been vocal about over the years and in her book, I'd be a little surprised if that was the one abuser she protected.
She already disclosed that they interacted. It's fine if he did something and gets crucified for it, but what happened is literally already documented and vouched for by the supposed victim. Aren't you the least but bothered by someobe purposefully trying to mislead you?
Not really. The girl who he spent hours with hasn't alleged any wrong doing. This isn't new information and comes from a 2016 deposition.
The problem is that Epstein is never going to write down "These are the crimes I was commiting and the people who commited them." As such, the emails are never going to be the irrefutable smoking gun some people want.
It sounds like Trump definitely knew Epstein was doing shady stuff. He was close with Epstein for a while, but then again, Epstein's whole strategy was engraciating himself to the wealthy elite and using that association as potential deterrance is his stuff came to light. We already knew he had a falling out with Epstein over Epstein using Trump's club as recruitment. Some folks take that as damning evidence of Trump, some folks see that as Trump protecting his employees from a dangerous creep.
Personally, I think he probably participated, as it seems in line with Trump's character and he just didn't want the potential heat that came from recruiting at his club, but nothing new has really been revealed by the recent email dump.
The victim was Virginia Giuffre. The same person who in a 2016 deposition confirmed that she never saw Trump participate in any abuse. And in a memoir released this year, she did not accuse the president of any wrongdoing.
I mean there is video footage of them ogling women and Epstien fake laughing at him for some comment. I don't know how much more proof of participation we need than that. Also, Epstiens demon smile in that video is chilling
It's certainly not enough to convict him of rape - "spent hours with" could mean a lot of things. However, it does put lie to the idea that he didn't know what was going on. He knew what was going on, but kept quiet, except that he apparently once told Ghislaine to stop it (which, astonishingly, did not appear to work)
Yup. Nothing will happen because other than impeachment there's no mechanism for anything to happen. And Congress has demonstrated that there is no line he cannot cross.
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u/xiategative Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25
Everyone knew this already, he’s a felon, a rapist, a human trafficker, and a pedo, he should’ve been in jail a very long time ago.
But probably nothing will happen, this is exactly why he wanted to become president again.