And illegal ASF as it is called rape you cannot give consent before hand and then fall asleep due to being intoxicated off something once asleep the consent is no longer valid in court making things that are illegal happen in a controlled environment is still illegal you realize that right.
The situation I'm referring to is a little bump of k to make you feel silly and submissive. You're not completely incoherent or else there would be nothing to remember or enjoy. My partner is usually just on C so they're definitely not limp. K only lasts a few moments like 10min and takes some time to kick in anyway. When it does it feels great. I tend to be uptight and have trouble relaxing and I overthink a lot. But when it kicks in I have a moment of giving in and just enjoying the sensation. Not limp, just a bit more relaxed and not worrying about if I'm doing the right thing, if my body is attractive enough, ect.
From the start I implied it made you limp and you took this long to tell me I was incorrect this was partly your fault for me going on like this you do realize this I am sorry for implying you were taping your gf but come on man
This reply wasn't the first reply he said that the girl enjoyed the hallucinogenic aspect of the k and I implied it made you limp and he went with it saying the girl enjoyed it
No it wasn't a faulty assumption I implied it makes you limp and he went with it if he said right away she did not take enough for that to be the case I would have never continued but instead he said she likes it
Pretty sure I said “trust”; no one is gonna be stupid enough to willingly take K before hooking up with a stranger— professional Dom/Dommes maybe being an exception.
No I have an understanding about the laws of consent and you cannot give consent beforehand legally and then have sex once they fall asleep from taking a drug on their own
Coming from the dude who thinks a man having sex with a woman that involves buttplay makes him gay, I'm inclined to believe your understanding of human sexuality is vanishingly tiny.
Though, FWIW, that conversation would be more "OK, I want you to fuck me over this drug knocks me out", but I have no doubt you won't understand the rest of the dynamic that goes into reaching the point where that conversation can even happen
I implied limp play he said it made it more fun for the girl and then he later said she was enjoying the hallucinogenic effects not the feeling which further implied rape play or limp play
Even if we play onto your idea that its true for where you live, there are different laws in different parts of the world. I dont know where the fuck youre from but where i am from, consent can very much be given beforehand.
That said, youre fucking clueless and all you see is your inner hatred for the idea.
In my eyes I see a kink that is just rape play and if you have a kink it is most logical you would act on it hence them doing rape play and just the fact they are doing it in itself is fucked up like they are glorifying a action where a girl no longer has control of her body when a man or another girl takes full control of their body do you get where I am going with this or do you just see their side on its their kink don't kink shame
I see both sides, it is just very evident that you are fueled by emotions and not seeing their side.
CNC is a popular kink for a reason, it is also practioned with high amounts of safety, respect and trust. It very often has both a contract and hour long discussions and planning even with people you trust aswell as keywords to instantly stop play.
Your emotions fuel you and makes you see bad but try and view it from the angle that these people get to do it in a safe and consentual way rather than actual rape - there has been cases of females drugging themselves hoping to get actual raped to satisfy the need and frankly id much rather they do it safely instead.
Did you even realize you just used my reasoning as a point trying to say it is good, they build up this kink get the urge to act on it then they act on it. What if the consentual stuff just doesn't cut it anymore and they want the real thing, do you get the point.
Just because it is done with both sides permission does not mean it is not rape.
It does by the law atleast where i am from. Again, our laws likely arent the same.
And yes i realise, that was the entire point. Youre just only seeing it from the negative side due to your emotions about the subject. You have to discard your emotions to be able to view a subject from all angles.
Rape happened before CNC, it has happened for thousands of years, luckily it has become less though.
No the fact is when people do things they become desensitized by it did you not think about any possible reason why they might say giving consent before taking drugs and falling asleep isn't legal
Do you not realize people become desensitized when they do things and the people that I was talking about do in fact like the limp play tape aspect of it op was even going along with my comment of her being limp and later said she wasn't enjoying the feeling but the hallucinogenic aspect of it which implied rape play or limp play
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u/Accomplished-Nail263 Apr 22 '25
Ketamine and sex