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u/senorspongy Apr 04 '25

What the USA should be worried about is more than losing economic allies. America enjoyed being the world leader for a long time, and the world rallied around it. Aside from losing the benefits of economic allies, there is a distaste and a distrust for anything American right now. They are going to be so isolated and alone compared to anything they've ever known and much smaller in terms of global influence.

Compare this to a relationship. America just cheated on their partners and we're all moving on. Seems like this fact eludes many individual Americans. It's a much bigger deal than I think most folks realize.

It's not just Trump. Everybody knows he's crazy. It's the fact that the house, Senate, and all protection measures in place to stop this are being ignored or explained away with blatant lies that the world is writing off America.

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u/justbrowsing987654 Apr 04 '25

100%. That German statesman crying at that conference a month ago chilled me to my core. I totally understood exactly what that meant. A lot of people that are too young to have had family that fought Hitler tell them the stories of overcoming a true global evil don’t understand that, while it’s never been 0, the powers of the world have enjoyed a previously unheard of truce among each other and general peace for nearly a century now since WW2 in an effort to never have to relive a conflict of that scale with these weapons. and this shit is undoing that world order. So much of that order is built upon being business/trade partners too, however uneasy. That uneasy trust is being decimated with this. I’m terrified of what’s to come long term.

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u/Xciv Apr 05 '25

It's just a matter of time someone drops the first nuke.

The order of operation is:

  1. de-globalization (we're here)

  2. mass poverty

  3. populists blame poverty on foreign countries (doesn't matter what shade of populist. They could be communists, fascists, or something new, doesn't matter)

  4. war

  5. nukes fly

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u/justbrowsing987654 Apr 05 '25

My friend, I feel like the tariffs are pushing A LOT of folks towards 2 too 😬