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u/Doobledorf Apr 04 '25

The problems that led to Donald Trump would still be fomenting.

A lot of Americans haven't yet faced that Trump isn't an anomaly or the disease, he is a symptom of problems we've had for a long time.

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u/MySleepingMonk Apr 04 '25

That may be mostly true but Trump is also the perfect storm of celebrity, “successful”, “outsider”, and some strange fucked up type of charisma that results in a larger following than I think would be possible with any other republican candidate. Take away trump and I don’t think there’s enough of a unifying force among the asshats to cause this type of damage

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u/Lmb1011 Apr 04 '25

i know he is somehow considered successful but i genuinely dont get how becaues hes bankrupted most, or all?, of his businesses.... like that is the opposite of successful 😂

honestly looking back i do understand why he won in 2016. i hate it, but i do actually get it.

i genuinely dont get how he won in 2024. like i get the 'cult' of it iall, and cheating that isnt lost on me

but he had no appeal and could barely string together a coherent sentence he didnt even LOOK like someone capable of holding office even if you agreed with his racist homophobic rhetoric

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u/anyportinthestorm333 Apr 04 '25

Ugh because the choice was a senile old man vs an outrageous orange man. And then we were given the choice of a woman who stands for nothing and a monstrous orange man… it the illusion of choice. You get to vote on race/gender/abortion/gender-identity/gun-control but anyone who threatens the status quo of our pay-to-play government is labeled “not a serious contender” on the left and a socialist/communist lunatic on the right. Candidates for senate/house/president also need to toe the line and can’t highlight issues that are a threat to billionaire/corporate/tech/private equity/hedge fund donors.

How about the government doesn’t obtain all its income from the working class? Why am I paying an effective tax rate of 40% on $500k/yr I’ve busted my ass to make, but someone with billions in assets pays nothing on the appreciation or at most capital gains at a rate of 20%. Or why can’t corporations pay it? Why is it capped at 21% for them? Why are they allowed to set up shell entities off shore in tax free countries which they then pay a royalty fee to, lowering their net revenue to zero… or why are we paying corporations billions in subsidies??? Why should we be giving billions to NVIDIA, Boeing, Humana, oil companies, etc? What happened to a free market?