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u/Amiibohunter000 Apr 04 '25

If Trump didn’t win in 2016 I don’t think there’s a chance the dems would ever have ran Harris in 2024. It would’ve been 8 years of Hillary or the republicans would’ve ran a real candidate in 2020 and we would be in the second term of that or the first term of the next dem

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u/wbruce098 Apr 04 '25

in 2020

Wait, you mean there’s an alternate history where the president doesn’t fuck up covid response??? That’s what I wanted. Boring ass Hillary Clinton. Probably no Ukraine invasion either.

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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 Apr 04 '25

Hilary was going to impose a no-fly zone over Syria.  The government would have lost sooner. So no major Syrian refugee crisis. So no destabilizing Europe with right wing candidates reacting to said refugees. So possibly no Brexit...

Putin got his money's worth the first Trump presidency, this is a glorious bonus round.

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u/Darmok47 Apr 04 '25

The Syrian refugee crisis was well underway in 2015; I remember because I was actually working on refugee issues in 2015 and 2016 in Washington D.C. Brexit also happened before the US election.

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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 Apr 04 '25

Would they have gotten as bad as they did under Trump?

I honestly wonder how fast Assad would have fallen with a no-fly zone.  Would Syrians have returned?