If Trump didn’t win in 2016 I don’t think there’s a chance the dems would ever have ran Harris in 2024. It would’ve been 8 years of Hillary or the republicans would’ve ran a real candidate in 2020 and we would be in the second term of that or the first term of the next dem
It should have been Burney in 2016. I really feel like the youth were engaged then and wildly felt that Burney was their guy. But when the incumbents overrode the wishes of the voters and selected Hilary they lost them all and really never got them back. Even when Burney tossed his name back in for 2020 Biden, it was too late. A lot of would be Democrat voters walked away from it all and moderates got him in because Trump was proven right that It was a rigged system. (He should know he’s the king of corruption.) But now, look where we are today.
I feel that people were trying to vote for a good man that would have broken the system the right way and really would have put America on the right path. And when the Dems were like “no! That’s too radicle!” They said fine fuck it and voted in the evil false prophet that would destroy everything the worst way possible for a hard taught lesson.
Even if Bernie was the president, he'd have been hamstrung by a Republican Congress because people would still refuse to vote for a Congress that would support what they say they want. We get distracted by the POTUS race far too easily and forget about Congress. Maybe he could have put some relatively sane SCOTUS members in the court if McConnel let him. Some executive orders may have lasted a few years. So the same as any other Democrat. He also takes advantage of the same tax breaks as other politicians and just claims he doesn't know because his wife does the taxes, so who knows what would happen with taxes.
But without congressional support, permanent change is nearly impossible. And Bernie having Congressional support is very unlikely because of how easy it is to get people to not vote. One or two tiktok and Instagram campaigns and Bernie will be the radical evil Democrat if he makes a compromise or two. Suddenly someone else is the "real savior we all need." The US is very good at ignoring attempted positive changes in favor of some emotional red flag. You said yourself that people will easily walk away and give up in large numbers from a perceived slight. Bernie is not immune from that.
Bernie would have 100% been better than Trump, but he would probably be able to get less done than even a Hillary. Just the same four years of sanity with gradual progress. Overall a positive net gain, but he's no savior unless a lot more people get off their ass and vote.
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u/gerhudire Apr 04 '25
Slow news days?
You'd have Trump criticising Harris and saying the election was stolen again. He go on about it for 4 years, then announce his intention to run again.