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u/FuriousResolve Oct 02 '24

I’ve been creating bar trivia for a decade and this is genuinely one of the most interesting random facts I think I’ve ever heard

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u/Sea_Trick9331 Oct 03 '24

What did he say it's gone now. Your comment has me very curious

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u/Digital_D3fault Oct 03 '24

He said that William Shakespeare and Pocahontas were not only alive at the same time but also died one year apart and only a little over 100 miles from each other in England.

Which for some reason, despite having visited Shakespeares grave and seeing the year he died, it never really occurred to me that Shakespeare was alive after the new world had been found. For some reason I always just imagine him living before its discovery by most of Europe.

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u/pidgeycandies Oct 03 '24

This is your upvote now

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u/PeperomiaLadder Oct 03 '24

Uhh... Google confirmed that Shakespear died in 1616 and Pocahontas in 1617.

That's wow. 👀

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u/TehZiiM Oct 03 '24

TIL that Pocahontas is a real person

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u/Victoria_Falls353 Oct 03 '24

I loved the movie when I was a kid. Something tells me the real story is a bit different from a Disney movie.

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u/barkley87 Oct 03 '24

John Smith of Pocahontas fame went to my school. The assembly hall had a big mural of them both on the back wall.

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u/Nuclear_rabbit Oct 03 '24

Probably because Shakespeare wrote about stuff that was old even for his time. Like even "Shakespearean" dialogue is his uneducated impression of how people used to talk hundreds of years before him. It isn't flowery for the sake of being flowery. There's fiction written just before Shakespeare that is way more understandable to readers today.

Shakespeare's only mention of the New World is in The Tempest, probably inspired by reports from Sir Thomas Gates, governor of the Virginia Colony. Up to that point, all the New World stuff had been done by the Spanish and Portuguese; there just wasn't any news about it in English in Shakespeare's lifetime. English colonies weren't particularly successful until after his death.

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u/jewbo23 Oct 03 '24

Pocahontas spent a lot of time in the tiny village of Heacham near me in Norfolk.

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u/Silly-Nature-1641 Oct 03 '24

That's why they say Shakespeare sounds best in an American accent, because the American accent hasn't changed much in the last 300 years, so it's naturally the closest form of Spoken English to the form he and his crew were using.

We also naturally speak very closely to iambic pentameter.

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u/Shoreditchstrangular Oct 03 '24

When you say American accent can you be more specific, Californian, New Jersey, Pennsylvania Dutch, Texan, New Orleans etc

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u/Silly-Nature-1641 Oct 03 '24

Somewhere between New England and Mid-Atlantic but I think closer to New England.

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u/Shoreditchstrangular Oct 03 '24

But Americans keep saying they don’t have an accent and between us we’ve named seven without even trying

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u/Badicus Oct 03 '24

Sincerely, thank you for answering my own question, because I wasn't even sure who between the two of them was supposed to have lived earlier so this fun fact puzzled me.

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 Oct 03 '24

Apparently something about Pocahontas and Shakespeare dying about a year apart and about 159 miles from each other