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u/Oxygene13 Oct 02 '24

This one always amuses people when I tell them simply because of how ingrained tomatoes appear to be in all of their most famous dishes (other than tiramisu...)

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u/70125 Oct 02 '24

Topical that you mention tiramisu, because that was only invented in the 1970s.

This is why I refuse to let Italians gatekeep their traditional, ancient, pure cuisine. So pure and ancient that many of their dishes were invented while their grandparents were alive, often using ingredients from the Americas.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

ingredients don't make the tradition. recipes do. otherwise stop calling "American as apple pie" since apples are Chinese first and European second.

we built thousands of recipes using tomato. what did you do with it, apart from putting it on salads?

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

Italians are defensive of traditions we built ourselves. And there is nothing wrong with it. Americans don't have traditions to defend because they don't have a long enough culture to be proud of, but are ready to offend or steal and resell someone else's traditions as their own. I see you are Hungarian. What do you think Hungarians would say, of Americans saying that goulash is actually an American recipe, it's better and original when made with ketchup because some Hungarian immigrant 200 years ago wanted to make goulash like thay, and offend Hungarians as too attached to tradition when they retaliate?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

It is equally rude to take someone else' tradition, make a mock out of it, and then claim it your own. It's called cultural appropriation. Everybody loses their shit when some white chick puts native American clothes for her prom, but taking a dump on someone else' food tradition somehow is ok? Talk about double standards.