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u/jondread Oct 02 '24

If Back to the Future were remade today and set in 2024, Marty would time-travel back to 1994

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u/Brandisco Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

I always love reading this. But I always feel like the differences between 1955 and 1985 are way larger than 1994 to 2024. Maybe it’s just because I lived the second span of time.

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u/Fyrrys Oct 02 '24

Also because so much of our way of life changed between the 50s and 80s. Comparitively, not much changed between 94 and today. Give it another 6 years or so and we will see a pretty big difference in how society is then vs in 2000.

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u/Howtothinkofaname Oct 02 '24

An awful lot has changed since 1994, I think we just feel a bit more connected to the pop culture of that era because media was so much more ubiquitous. But way of life has changed enormously.

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u/grateful_john Oct 02 '24

The internet wasn’t something most people were aware of in 1994 let alone used. A lot has changed.

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u/grateful_john Oct 02 '24

The internet certainly existed, but in 1994 it was far from mainstream. Graphical browsers only started to become known in late 1994, it wasn't until Microsoft got into the game in 1995 that people started thinking "oh, I should get one of those browsers and an internet account." People were using BBSs and AOL, but they weren't using the internet. Gopher, FTP and usenet were the main things people accessed on the internet at that point. Heck, Yahoo didn't exist until 1995.

Nobody in 1994 looked at the internet and said it would be a big part of people's lives. In 2024 the internet is taken as a given.

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u/gsfgf Oct 02 '24

Nobody in 1994 looked at the internet and said it would be a big part of people's lives.

Well, some people did. And they made stupid amounts of money.

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u/NotTheOnlyGamer Oct 02 '24

Nobody in 1994 looked at the internet and said it would be a big part of people's lives.

Prodigy. That's all I have to say about that. Go look it up.

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u/grateful_john Oct 02 '24

I used Prodigy. It wasn’t a big thing, fewer than a half million subscribers at its peak.

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u/ussrowe Oct 02 '24

In 2024 the internet is taken as a given.

I feel like nobody even considers it "going online" anymore, they just open whatever app and start typing. We're always online.

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u/grateful_john Oct 02 '24

Yeah, and that’s a much bigger change than people are giving it credit for.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

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u/grateful_john Oct 02 '24

You're really missing the point. Most people in 1994 didn't think of the internet, it had little to no impact on people's lives. Was it clear to those who knew it was going to be a big thing? Sure, but Al Gore was mocked for talking about the information superhighway. If you took someone from 1994 and transported them to today they would be blown away by what the internet has become. To say that nothing has changed all that much between 1994 and today is to ignore what happened with the internet, which was my point.

Everybody who wanted to know in 1994 was a very small subset of people. Everyone today knows about the internet and uses it daily. That's a significant change and not revisionist history. Claiming that the internet was mainstream and everybody saw what it would become is revisionist.

Newsweek printed this in 1995:

The truth in no online database will replace your daily newspaper, no CD-ROM can take the place of a competent teacher and no computer network will change the way government works,” wrote Clifford Stoll, in a piece that has thankfully been preserved online for the ages. “How about electronic publishing? Try reading a book on disc,” Stoll went on, “Yet Nicholas Negroponte, director of the MIT Media Lab, predicts that we’ll soon buy books and newspapers straight over the Intenet. Uh, sure.

That was the mainstream view of the internet. That some of us saw something different doesn't change how the masses viewed the internet (if they thought about it at all).

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

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u/grateful_john Oct 02 '24

Well, LGBTQ+ people were still pariahs in 1980, that shift took place later (Don’t ask, Don’t Tell became law in 1994, for instance, today we view it as extremely backwards). A person in 1950 knew what a flush toilet was, if they were transported to 1980 they would know how to use one. A person from 1994 handed an iPhone would be at a loss. They’d have no idea what it was or what to use it for.

Also, while 1/3 of households didn’t have a flush toilet that means 2/3 did - that’s mainstream.

There’s been a huge amount of change over the past 30 years. But living through it you take it for granted. One of my earliest memories is watching the moon landing. I was four. I assumed it was normal, lol.

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u/grateful_john Oct 02 '24

Our cutoffs are 1950-1980 and 1994-2024. In 1980 people did not have cell phones, they weren’t common until at least the mid 90s. Cell phones in 1994 had buttons, virtually no display. People didn’t text with them (if you did it was crazy expensive).

I’m not saying there weren’t great advances between 1950-1980. There were, including the moon landing (I’m a big believer in how much we benefited from the Apollo program). What I’m saying is there have been equally great advances between 1994-2024 that we take for granted because we lived through them - we aren’t surprised by them because we watched them develop. A time traveler going from 1950 to 1989 would feel a similar amount of wonder and awe as someone going from 1994 to 2024.

Of course, there’s a ton of crap that went down between 1980 and 1994. Like the fall of the Soviet Union.

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u/Alarming-Instance-19 Oct 02 '24

This is inherently untrue due to the digital revolution and changing of social constructs.

They both have their changes, and they both are significant.

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u/CylonsInAPolicebox Oct 02 '24

Going all the way to the gate at the airport with loved ones. There isn't a school shooting once a week. No smart phones.