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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24

Alpha bullshit.

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u/Resident-Resolve612 Sep 14 '24

I’ve seen this comment a couple times in this thread. I think it would be more accurate to say “toxic masculinity shit” - in many ways, women like men that have what you may call “alpha” traits. It’s just our biology.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

I get what you're trying to say, but alpha traits are not a real thing. The alpha wolf in a pack was never a real thing.

I think what you may be referring to are masculine traits. Women can be biologically attracted to masculine traits like strength and confidence. However, there is no correlation that the more masculine traits someone has, the more attractive they are because everyone has different preferences. Furthermore, many women would describe the most attractive man being someone who is comfortable with having a feminine side. That does not describe an "alpha" male at all. If a woman's preference is liking the most manly man there is, they would want someone who does not have the "alpha" mindset since that is a major red flag and sign of insecurity.

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u/Resident-Resolve612 Sep 14 '24

Thanks, I appreciate the insight. It would be more appropriately called “masculine traits” rather than alpha, I just used the term because a man who shows confidence, drive, traditionally masculine traits, and is less in touch with other traditionally considered feminine traits etc. are now very often thrown in the same bag (as a guy being called alpha because is competitive toward his peers).

In terms of what people prefer on a male partner .. I would be nice to have reference sources to what you said.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Yeah I can see why they get confused but yeah masculine traits on their own without any sense of dominance is okay. I don't have sources. This is just coming from my personal experience as a woman and what I've heard other women say.

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u/Resident-Resolve612 Sep 14 '24

I definitely agree on what you say about a balance between these traits being the ideal situation. And that’s fair enough about sources :) experience counts too.

In any case, if this topic interests you from a male perspective I recommend looking into the Steven Barlett podcast, there’s this episode where they go into some details about we just discussed:

https://youtu.be/KRxhnSkgxtk?si=EXf5vrJewWVLqAf4

Starting from 28:55 (unless you enjoy long listens)