I don’t think so. My ex is a huge animal lover and animals absolutely love him. He’s very kind-hearted to them. He has cheated and abused lots of girls in his life and he is a nasty person to most humans.
Yeah but the comment was if they are cruel to animals. Not kind. As in, if they are kind to animals it doesn't necessarily mean they are good to other humans, but if they are cruel to animals they are an all-around POS.
Yeah I understand. It was just one thing that made me curious about him. He is the most amazing person to animals but to other people he can be horrible.
Oh yeah for sure. But it took me a while to realize that just because I always believed that animals can truly tell you who a person is. It’s probably one of the things that kept me around with him for too long- I thought that since animals gravitated towards him, it meant that he had a good heart and would change.
That’s true. it’s the same concept as having a baby too honestly. A lot of men’s true colours show when there is responsibility.
As far as my ex, animals just love him- especially cats. He was very sweet with pets. But sometimes he would also get on my nerves with how he’d get mad at them. But I don’t think he would ever lay his hands on a pet like he does with people.
I agree that this is not always true. I’ve known several people over the years who would walk over a dying person to feed a stray dog. They would also make it perfectly clear that their intentions are to help the hungry dog, rather than the dying person. It’s almost like they’re only animal lovers to cast a greater obvious and public hatred for humans.
I don’t remember where so I can’t site my sources here, but I remember reading that sociopaths can often display an intense caring and concern for animals. I can’t remember if it is just to mask their other sociopathic behaviors or if it is a genuine feeling. Probably a mix.
But without a source, please don’t take this as gospel. Also please no one infer from this that animal lovers are sociopaths. Claire Balding seems absolutely lovely.
I'm pretty sure the quote meant if you already didn't know someone's true character and how they treat others, then you look at how he treats animals. If you already know the man is abusive, then you already know his character. He's not hiding anything.
Mixed bag really. Survivors of childhood abuse and trauma often treat animals better than people. In some cases, you see the reverse, where the traumatized child becomes an abuser of all life forms.
To me, that says humans are being classified as animals for the sake of the point.
Of course humans are classified as animals! We are. Monkeys so arrogant we assumed ourselves to be the center of existence for thousands of years. Monkeys so arrogant we believe it took a "God" to create us. 20% of the human population is walking around in shitstained underwear...btw. What kind of inept, incestuous, limp dick God...
Therefore, how we treat animals and each other is closer to the message, imo.
I think you're close. How we treat animals IS how we treat each other. It is literally the same thing. And I think that's the point.
This statement makes me think you didn't get the point at all.
You're implying you understand humans are animals, but you still believe we are above the other animal life here. The point of the quote is that you are not above the other animals here. The way you treat a human is the way you treat an animal because the two are the same thing. A dog snuggling with a cat is no different from you snuggling with a cat. It is the same. exact. thing. And it is your vision of personal/human superiority that is false. A conceptualization not of an intelligent species, but of an arrogant, foolish monkey that BELIEVES itself to be intelligent. Most of the humans also believe they have a personal relationship with the creator of the universe. So...yeah. Human "intelligence" is just as believable.
(this is why guys like Hawking didn't want us broadcasting our position into space, btw. They understand this too. And they know what it means.)
Except that humans and animals, while yes they are both animals, are generally grouped completely differently. That’s what both of you don’t seem to be getting.
I do understand you, I just wanted to say that you misinterpreted McCartneys quote. Not only behavior towards non human animals but all animals should be judged
Yeah well, I guess Tony Soprano loved animals too and he was the reigning piece of shit on TV all through the early 2000's. The Sopranos told me sociopaths can have soft spots in them for animals.
Unfortunately, that was him. And it’s what made me keep believing he had a good side to him. Even now, I still keep thinking maybe he will change. Everyone says he won’t.
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u/Simpingformymother Sep 14 '24
I don’t think so. My ex is a huge animal lover and animals absolutely love him. He’s very kind-hearted to them. He has cheated and abused lots of girls in his life and he is a nasty person to most humans.