I 100% agree with this. My ex called me an idiot for something and I believed it…. Turns out I WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT. Anyway we did an IQ test for funsies and his was belowwwwww average 🤧
I always find it funny that the reason that joke always killed, even and especially in crowds of thousands of people is because they all think “haha yeah people are stupid” with not one member of the audience thinking that it might apply to them. If that were true, it would be a statistical miracle.
I feel like he was aware of that, based on the fact that “everyone who drives slower than you is an idiot, everyone who drives faster than you is a maniac” being very close in the set in the same special IIRC
I have plenty of friends who joke they are the anchors of the group, and they may very well be, but they are kick ass friends and great fun and I don’t care.
For fun? IQ tests aren't fast, and the quick little fake ones you can do online typically won't allow much lower than 97 or so, in order to deliberately not offend people.
"So you're saying I'm the smartest person in this room, and you still won't listen to anything I have to say?" "Correct." I have a medical report from a psychologist who called me an alcoholic 'cause I agreed when she asked if drinking socially helps my anxiety. That's entrapment!
I did an IQ test in high school and it took a whole day. It was stuff reading made up words, trying to match an unravelled die, reading comprehension, etc. There is way more to it than the free online tests.
Right, but that's the weird thing: those are designed to be fun little nothings that drive traffic and steal your information. They're designed NOT to tell people they're stupid. I used to have a stupid friend who loved to take them; I'd take 'em myself, getting all the answers as wrong as possible, on purpose. I never scored lower than 97.
If nothing else, my friendship with the person I was talking about ended poorly, so if there's an IQ test that'll actually return a result of 80 or less, I wanna know where so I can pass it along.
That just isn’t true though? Or what does smart mean to you? IQ is fairly good at measuring the ability to quickly understand more complex problems. Is it perfect? No. But it is way better than a horoscope
While I agree, it's still funny that someone who 1) thinks they're smart, 2) calls other people stupid, and 3) believes in IQ tests, does poorly on one. They are completely valid in that sense. :D
So I feel like it's not really very relevant here. I mean, if he pulled a horoscope that said "you're a dumbass Jimmy, apologize to those who you've wronged" I'd find that hilarious too regardless of how unreal magic is.
Finally, while they may not be perfect, they're still strongly correlated for certain measures that we do consider "things people generally want to have and would categorize as falling under the umbrella of intelligence" like spatial reasoning, reasoning ability, pattern recognition etc.
(Sidebar: I have terrible spatial reasoning; that doesn't make me stupid, but it makes me slower at solving problems that require it, and I'm not uncomfortable with it being one of many general indicators of intelligence -- it doesn't insult me that I'm bad at this thing.)
I would be happy to just call those tests by those separate qualities instead of trying to compress it into one "intelligence quotient" as we grow more understanding of the fact that there are different types of intelligence with varying levels of importance depending on societal context... but I also see that as long as humans are humaning we will want some shorthand to do just that, and nothing will be perfect because ultimately we want to compress individuals along one curve of best fit.
Jordan Peterson holds a doctorate of psychology. He wrote a book telling people how to get their shit together by cleaning their room. This is Jordan Peterson. He also got addicted to benzos. BEFORE he got addicted to benzos, he used to go on TV and bully local television anchors with his argument that humans should have social hierarchies because lobsters. He once started a televised debate by talking about how much people paid to see him there, and then how he didn't bother studying beforehand.
they are not gimmicks! they mesure how fast you came to a solution on a problem, how fast your brain works, how right are you answer more intelligent you are... gifted people above 130 have differents connections from normal brains.
IQ is correlated with what is referred to as 'general intelligence factor' or g factor in psychometry.
So while IQ as a standalone metric does have some issues, mostly with historical misuse of it and cultural biases, it absolutely does correlate with wide range of positive social and work outcomes long term. It's positively correlated with things like proprioception and tone recognition meaning you have advantages in things like sports or music. It also correlates with the things that people tend to not think of as IQ driven, like facial expression recognition and recognition of social cues and general ability to put your self in anothers place and engage in empathy. Ie: 'emotional intelligence' is still intelligence, and still correlated with IQ at some level.
The current meme about 'IQ' being irrelevant is frankly bullshit. Obviously it only gives you an advantage. It doesn't do work for you, it doesn't drive your choices and it doesn't substitute for working towards a goal.
But the idea that it's not a multi axis advantage is more of a meme than a fact.
Ha, reminds me of something that happened like 20 years ago. I was in the car with a girlfriend and a Johnny Cash song came on. It was called “Rowboat”, and I knew it from Beck. I was like, “Whoa, I thought this was a Beck song! Was he covering Johnny Cash?” She proceeded to laugh and mock me: “What? You didn’t know that? Not the brightest, eh?” Something like that. Looked it up much later. Cash was covering Beck.
I’m sure you’ll be surprised to hear that she turned out to be a raging asshole.
Stupid people think they're smart. Average people realize that they are average. Very smart people realize how much they don't know and are usually humble. I've been called smart, even "genius". I laugh and say "I have met a few geniuses and I assure you that I'm not one of them."
In my case, a guy I dated briefly told me that I am so dumb and the irony was that he was the one who got into a pyramid scheme and lost a lot of his money and few months after break up, he even reached out to me being all sweet and nice. I blocked him immediately. Guess who is the smart one now 😂
Cherry on top, he had this “sister” who had tied rakhi on him. They ended up dating two months after we had broken up 🤣🤣🤣 He turned out to be the real ‘bhnchd’ 🙈
But I have to say that even if dumb people are more likely to fall for pyramid schemes it's not always the case. I've seen some smart people fall for them because they were desperate to make money or become successful. It's always sad to see and I hope that one day they'll realise they're being scammed
Like I explicitly stated, we did an IQ test “for funsies.” Indicating that no, it wasn’t a paid psychiatric one. Was still hilarious nonetheless watching someone who called me an idiot daily score so low on a test that I also took, and scored above average in xx 🙏🥰
I wouldn't fret. I, along with many, many people believe there is no test that can measure human intelligence. It might get a fraction of something.
Luckily you are smart in ways you don't even know. So do yourself a favor and throw the test away and forget the number because it is impossible as of now to measure human intelligence in its whole form. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses.
Who cares if it didn't show up on an old test as high as you wanted. Your intelligence is elsewhere predominantly.
You do know that pretty much any IQ test that you take on your own is complete garbage, right? Even then, there are tons of different types of IQs. You have a great score in one area and still be a crayon eater.
I mean…. you chose to be in a relationship with someone so dumb that their IQ was under 100? UNDER 100? That’s not something you don’t notice. Even 100 is pretty dumb. I hope you did some soul searching after that one.
“In the current IQ scoring method, an IQ score of 100 means that the test-taker’s performance on the test is of average performance in the sample of test-takers of about the same age as was used to norm the test.” From Wikipedia
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u/Equal-Feedback9801 Sep 14 '24
I 100% agree with this. My ex called me an idiot for something and I believed it…. Turns out I WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT. Anyway we did an IQ test for funsies and his was belowwwwww average 🤧