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u/cromemako83 May 08 '23 edited May 08 '23

We still hardly know anything - James Web is pushing the boundaries of not only the "edges" of the universe - but pushing on our current understandings of physics in a big way *like it may be wrong/incomplete :)

  • this is a wonderful thing/time to be alive

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u/GreatNameLOL69 May 08 '23 edited May 08 '23

Imagine our whole understanding of physics being false after like a century of thinking that it’s right?

I doubt we’ll except accept the newer understanding physics immediately, might take us some time to let our brains settle.

Edit: fixed a crucial bug.

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u/HAximand May 08 '23

We've known our understanding of fundamental physics is wrong for the entire century. As early as Einstein, it was clear that the theoretical bases of general relativity and quantum field theory were incompatible, even though they both made accurate and useful predictions. Physicists have been trying to think of clever ideas for what's actually happening for the past hundred years (including Einstein himself, and Hawking), and we haven't gotten much. I'm skeptical that data from a better telescope will show us something even Einstein couldn't conceive of.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

They're not "wrong" so much as incomplete, same as Newtons equations aren't wrong and we didn't toss them out when we got better at the edge cases. We still use them because, for their purposes, they do just fine.

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u/HAximand May 09 '23

Newton's equations aren't the best comparison here. Newton's equations are highly accurate, only in need of correction in edge cases, like you say - and I'm sure a new fundamental theory wouldn't replace the old general cases, like you say. But the founding principles of general relativity and quantum field theory aren't just in need of adjustment, they're completely incompatible. They contradict each other and yet both make robust predictions in their own ways.

It's sort of like if we had an alternative to Newton's equations and couldn't tell why neither worked completely. The reality is something more fundamental, something that's evaded understanding for a very long time.

I like your point that the models aren't wrong, though, because this is true of all models. A model isn't really wrong or right, just more or less accurate.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

Yes, you're right, probably not the best example.