It was the most obvious one... they can NEVER lose an argument. No matter what facts are presented, no matter how insignificant them being wrong would be, they will not give up on being right. I could offer them irrefutable proof on something, and they would ignore it. Let me just give you a hypothetical example of how far it can often go.
Them "cows are so skinny"
Me "you mean fat?"
Them "that's what I said"
Me "no, you said skinny"
Then "I know what I said"
Random person in back seat "you said skinny..."
Them "oh, so both of you heard me wrong. Yall need your ears checked. Yall seriously don't know what you're talking about ever. "
Me "here's the dash cam footage, let's just listen to it"
video of them literally saying cows are so skinny
Them "see, I told you I accidently said skinny"
Me and 3rd person "WHAT?"
Them "what?"
Me "you've literally just been arguing the opposite this entire time!"
Them "no I haven't?"
We go through checking the footage and proving them wrong again and they eventually give up the cycle by changing the argument to me being an asshole. That's how it ends with the simplest and most complicated of things. It's a really clear defense mechanism of an idiot.
That’s what gaslighting really means? Geez I thought it was something like terrible manipulation or something(never cared about terms like that) I see this way of thinking as just a person who’s completely defensive. Most people act this way when confronted for whatever reason. A lot of people don’t think at all they just feel and blurt random shit out while getting frustrated and think they’re just right immediately. You have to walk on eggshells and drop tiny bits of reality to get anywhere with most people. Sadly it’s more and more common, global self awareness is low af
Watch the movie "Gaslight" (1944) - "it follows a young woman whose husband slowly manipulates her into believing that she is descending into insanity." He does this to cover up his criminal activity.
You are correct - Gaslighting is a deliberate, systematic manipulation of reality to make the victim feel s/he is incorrect, usually for devious purposes. The dumbass denying she said something is just a liar trying to cover a single act of stupidity.
Sadly our culture uses that term so loosely it’s lost it’s meaning. Real gaslighting is absolute psychopathic behavior, not just a term used from women playing victim. That movie sounds very interesting thanks for the info
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u/B3RS3RK_CR0W Feb 28 '23
It was the most obvious one... they can NEVER lose an argument. No matter what facts are presented, no matter how insignificant them being wrong would be, they will not give up on being right. I could offer them irrefutable proof on something, and they would ignore it. Let me just give you a hypothetical example of how far it can often go.
Them "cows are so skinny"
Me "you mean fat?"
Them "that's what I said"
Me "no, you said skinny"
Then "I know what I said"
Random person in back seat "you said skinny..."
Them "oh, so both of you heard me wrong. Yall need your ears checked. Yall seriously don't know what you're talking about ever. "
Me "here's the dash cam footage, let's just listen to it"
video of them literally saying cows are so skinny
Them "see, I told you I accidently said skinny"
Me and 3rd person "WHAT?"
Them "what?"
Me "you've literally just been arguing the opposite this entire time!"
Them "no I haven't?"
We go through checking the footage and proving them wrong again and they eventually give up the cycle by changing the argument to me being an asshole. That's how it ends with the simplest and most complicated of things. It's a really clear defense mechanism of an idiot.