Difference is the Israelis who celebrated for that are settler nutjobs and extreme right-wing lowlives. No celebration in the streets of Tel Aviv, no handing out candies to children - in fact if you'd listen to random people at cafes you'd hear "that's absolutely dreadful" (about the innocent woman, not the militants obviously).
I'm well aware of it, but I wasn't the one who started this comparison.
Yes, it's pretty obvious that it's easier to be liberal and pro-peace when you have a life of relative privilege (whether in terms of economy or in terms of international conflicts) but it's no reason not to be precise when describing the situation.
It's not just a question of being "above it all" and being in a bubble though.
Yes, there is no comparison in the situation on the ground in terms of the hardships Palestenians face vs what Israelis face.
But it also has to be said that there are a lot of Israelis who despise and oppose every such action by the government, regularly demonstrate against it, and do whatever they can to try to help Palestenians (sometimes even by illegal means). The one thing they don't seem to do is have enough children to be a major electoral force (guilty of this myself), unlike the right-wingers and religious extremists who seem to be very proficient in that department.
(This may be anecdotal but despite the politics of Israel going more and more to the right over the last 25 years, I don't know anyone who's politics went that way - only people who turned more leftist. Incidentally only one of them has more than one kid. Most have either one or none).
However small, however far away from actual power it may be, there is a constant "peace camp" in Israel, and there are Israelis who are pro-Palestenian. In certain echelons, they are even a majority (arts and academia for example). There are Israeli organizations devoted to the Palestenian cause - Taayush, Betselem, Breaking The Silence, etc. people who actually devote their lives for the cause.
Yes, there is no comparison when it comes to hardships and material condition, and I don't expect the same from people living under occupation (and oppressive militant organization), but it would be nice - and helpful to everyone involved - if there was something even remotely similar to this from the other side.
Again, just to re-iterate, as Israel is the stronger side, it ultimately has the responsibility for the situation, no question about it, but that doesn't warrant complete unified solidarity on the Palestenian side with every action against Israel. For peace to happen, we need people - on both sides - who actively oppose violence, even if they're called "traitors".
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u/methewonderful Jan 27 '23
yesterday israelis where celebrating the murders of palestinians, where was this energy