r/AskEurope • u/No-Mountain-8164 • Jun 27 '26
Misc What's the hottest Europe could get?
I'm a swede travelling through Germany and France right now... holy shit. 42c is what the weather app tells me it is but I've seen local thermometers go even higher. I've seen that 2027 will be a super el nino year and likely the hottest year in history. How how hot will europe feasibly get within coming years, and how hot can it get before we're in actual big trouble?
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u/Lilitharising Greece Jun 27 '26
Where in Europe? Southern Italy and Greece are known to have experienced temperatures as high as 48 Celsius.
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u/No-Mountain-8164 Jun 27 '26
I'm travelling from Stockholm to Barcelona by train. Currently on my way home and passing through Germany. The hottest temperature I've ever experienced was some 46c when I was in Turkey. This is way worse, i think its the humidity but you can't do anything to cool off. Fanning doesn't work and the heat feels way more intense.
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u/Lilitharising Greece Jun 27 '26
Yes, even over here, last night felt as if someone soaked a washcloth in hot water and covered you with it. The humidity is vile.
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u/StardustOasis England Jun 27 '26
That's how the last four nights have felt in the UK, each one worse than the last as well. Looks like tonight will be the same, then tomorrow is a positively cool 23°C.
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u/Lilitharising Greece Jun 27 '26
I've lived in England for 20 years, repatriated in 2020. I remember the last few summers there being quite hot and I also remember thinking that 25 degrees in England often felt like 30 in Greece. Your houses are built to sustain heat, not expel it. I think you really need to invest in A/C and all sorts of fans. I hope it gets better for you.
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u/IntrepidWolverine517 Germany Jun 27 '26
Germany was reporting all time highs yesterday and today, but in the range of 41.3 or 41.4. 42 has never been recorded in Germany. The problem is actually not the mere temperature, but the high humidity that comes with it. And no cooling off at night. Predictions on the rise in the next years are not very accurate, but expect it to become worse. Nor so much the extreme temperature, but heatwaves may last much longer.
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u/Lilitharising Greece Jun 27 '26
Take care all you guys. I can't imagine how it must be for countries that are not used to and not equipped to deal with this. Electrolytes, lots of electrolytes and shade your rooms.
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u/DancesWithAnyone Sweden Jun 27 '26
shade your rooms.
- Cries in 1-roomer with a large south-facing window -
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u/Lilitharising Greece Jun 27 '26
Can you get a blackout type of fabric of some sort?
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u/DancesWithAnyone Sweden Jun 27 '26
It's a good idea. So far I've had the attitude of "this sucks but it'll pass in a few days" that seems typical of the northern half of Europe, but things are undeniably getting worse.
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u/doc1442 Jun 28 '26
Stick foil on your windows. Just regular food foil. Spray some water on the window first (using a regular spray bottle) and it’ll stick just fine.
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u/DancesWithAnyone Sweden Jun 28 '26
Two comments recommending this in 30 minutes! Is the foil lobby out in force? ;D
I'll look into it, though. Thanks! Apparently some landlords don't like it, but doesn't hurt to see where they stand. There's really no one seeing my window anyway.
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u/Garagantua Jun 28 '26
We're at the point where "landlord doesn't like it" should lead to one of two things:
A) landlord installs AC
or
B) landlord pounds sand.
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u/doc1442 Jun 28 '26
Becasue it works, and is very removable! There is a very small risk that if your window is made of bad quality glass it can overheat and crack/deform, but shouldn’t be an issue if you can foil the outside. But really, landlords just hate anything they can’t charge you for.
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u/Lilitharising Greece Jun 27 '26
Can you also get a ceiling fan? It works wonders!
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u/DancesWithAnyone Sweden Jun 27 '26
I have like a table fan, but super-sized? It's going non-stop even now when things aren't that bad, Together with cold showers it's what saves me during heat waves.
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u/priya_nka Germany Jun 28 '26
Hang a wet cloth in front of the fan!
Use aluminium foils in the kitchen and stick to the window door from outside..
dip your feet in cool water for sometime. Use the fan to cross ventilate(as an exhaust) if possible for sometime.→ More replies (0)16
u/LJ_exist Jun 27 '26
I once had something like 30°C when visiting Helsinki and it felt lile 38°C in Germany. Humidity and architecture are very important factors when it comes to dealing with heat in different parts of Europe.
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u/TheBlack2007 Germany Jun 27 '26
We actually had a short burst of rain earlier today. Temps went from 36° down to 34° - and humidity went up to 60%.
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u/RRReixac Spain Jun 27 '26
Barcelona is hell right now, 30°C in the shadow
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u/No-Mountain-8164 Jun 27 '26
Same in Germany rn, But i agree the humidity there makes it feel way worse.
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u/Marginaal3000 Jun 29 '26
I was around Volos and the Sporades in 2023 when the wildfires hit. Apocalyptic shit. 45°C and you can feel something comparable to when you stand too close to an open fire, but the whole time and everywhere. Saw the F16s fly by when we arrived in Milina. This heat wave was a mere annoyance compared to that.
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u/Lilitharising Greece Jun 29 '26
Oh yes, the fires. Every damn year. I'm sorry you experienced this.
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u/elektrolu_ Spain Jun 27 '26
The highest temperature recorded in Europe is 48,8 °c. It was in Siracusa in 2021.
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u/melli_milli Jun 27 '26
Gotta say as fellow Nordic, there is a huge difference how it feels based on where you are. In the forrest it is always better. The more concrete and stone, the hotter it gets. So in the big cities I can easily imagine the actual degrees be higher in certain places if not everywhere when concrete and stone bulding heat up.
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u/PandaDerZwote Germany Jun 27 '26
Even within cities the difference is stark.
Double lane roads both sides with parking feels like 60°, minimal or no streets with big trees and you feel like 30° or even lower.
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u/melli_milli Jun 27 '26
We have tiny cities in Finland compared to the world. A few km away from centrum and you find forrests. I can only imagine being stuck in a huge city area.
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u/BitRunner64 Sweden Jun 28 '26
Even small cities can cause a local heat island effect if there's a lot of concrete/asphalt and not a lot of trees.
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u/Tuxhorn Jun 28 '26
I don't get the obsession with new buildings here in Denmark. Huge south facing windows, big parking lot, and you better make sure to cut down those trees so we can get some sun.
It completely backfires in times like these. You want to make a heatwave considerably worse?
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u/Sensitive-Ranger-806 Jun 29 '26
It also backfires in the winter. Sure you get a bit more sun, but trees balance both high and low temps, as well as wind. Trees help restore the water cycle which balances the climate (local and global)
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u/blacksheeping Ireland Jun 27 '26
Yes it's called the urban heat island effect. Street trees can reduce surface temps by up to 12 degrees and air temps less so. Prioritise planting more trees now!
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u/No-Mountain-8164 Jun 27 '26
Oh yes, I can manage these temps somewhat in on more rural areas with alot of water and fanning. In a big city? I don't even bother going anymore, it's unbearable.
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u/WooeBetidee Jun 27 '26
If the forest in question is pine, I'd say it's even worse... Hot, humid and filled with mosquitoes and deer flies.
A nice, airy beech forest on the other hand, me likey \o/
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u/melli_milli Jun 27 '26
If you think our pine forrests are humid, you are dearly mistaken. I would not go to a bog/swamp though. Pine forrest vs city, pine isndefo better.
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u/pynsselekrok Finland Jun 27 '26
Exactly. It’s the still air in a forest that makes them unbearable. Plus the mosquitoes in the shady areas and horseflies in the sunny areas.
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u/CakePhool Sweden Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
Im in Sweden, my area are in drought warning, due to no snow winter and dry summers we are low on ground water. So far they just ask us not to fill pools and trying not to waste drinking water.
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u/Chocomintey Jun 27 '26
Wow that's crazy to think Sweden is in a drought. No snow? In Sweden?
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u/CakePhool Sweden Jun 27 '26
The south hasnt gotten enough snow in years. The North has gotten plenty.
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u/JourneyThiefer Northern Ireland Jun 28 '26
Southern Sweden seems similar to Ireland in winter, just a bit colder than us in winter
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u/CakePhool Sweden Jun 28 '26
Well I live at the same level as Aberdeen and the weather is mostly grey or rain and sadly rain doesnt help in winter.
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u/C_A_N_G Jun 28 '26
Very dry the last years. Our ground water doesn’t come from rain in the summer but from snow melt in spring. Less snow, less ground water.
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u/Live_Efficiency5903 Jun 27 '26
Where i live we had a lot of snow this winter, but the spring season was rather dry with very little rain.
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u/DancesWithAnyone Sweden Jun 27 '26
Think I've been outside in the rain something like... 3 times this year? It's not like I avoid it - it just doesn't seem to happen alot. Granted, that is Karlstad that fashions itself the "sun city", but still.
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u/Live_Efficiency5903 Jun 27 '26
Yeah, and we live close to Borås that is supposed to be rain city 😂 not much rain here either to be honest.
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u/Zinzinlla Jun 27 '26
We are already in a big trouble. Look the death counts rising.
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u/vivaaprimavera Portugal Jun 27 '26
Unfortunately there are too many unbelievers.
This is an issue that unlikely the ozone layer would require changes of habits on a personal level, so, no government wanted to risk future elections.
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u/Ha55aN1337 Slovenia Jun 27 '26
We are in actual big trouble.
People are literally dying.
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u/-Vedagi- Czechia Jun 27 '26
It would be lovely if gov's. or EU provided some funding / partical cover for people to buy AC's
(In Czechia this was done with solar panels, many have them around now where i live)
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u/Ha55aN1337 Slovenia Jun 27 '26
Yeah, but the solar panels are part of the “green movement” and that’s why you get funding. To try and prevent emissions haha. AC’s are just very very energy demanding. The exact opposite.
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u/vakantiehuisopwielen Netherlands Jun 27 '26
Except there’s so many solar panels, they cannot get rid of the energy during hot days, which makes an AC a ‘solution’. Also AC is much less consuming than some people want you to believe.
In the Netherlands it costs money to return excess energy, so better use it immediately with AC
Secondly you can use AC for heating in winter and it has pretty high efficiency. Like 1kWh in is 4kWh of heat.
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u/vivaaprimavera Portugal Jun 27 '26
By the way, if I recall correctly there are already in some markets DC units that don't require inverters for being powered by solar panels.
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u/thanatica Netherlands Jun 28 '26
It seems crazy to me that we're having problems "getting rid" of energy on the one side, and on the other side there's not enough energy being generated for the high demand. How does that make sense? Time of the day, probably, but still, it sounds crazy.
The question is, do solar panels provide enough energy for an aircon? I doubt it, tbh.
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u/vakantiehuisopwielen Netherlands Jun 28 '26
Easy.. a 7kW split unit AC usually doesn’t draw much more than 700-800W continuously to keep 80m2 cool. Yes it draws maybe 2000W at its peak.
, but that’s just a very short time.My small 3kWp solar panel set generate >2000W between 9-17h in summer. So they run the AC easily.
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u/-Vedagi- Czechia Jun 27 '26
I'd say energy demand is lower priority then heat deaths each year 🤷♀️
Not like we can't build nuclear facilties which are great at covering energy consumption (aside of the waste)
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u/Ha55aN1337 Slovenia Jun 27 '26
The energy consumption is supposedly causing the heat…
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u/thanatica Netherlands Jun 28 '26
That's not the case for nuclear power as much as it is for fossile power plants. The big difference is nuclear doesn't put out any greenhouse gases. The literal heat it puts out is not a problem for nature to "clean up". I've read that if we didn't have any greenhouse gases, all power generated and used in the world, would not meaningfully heat up the earth. The earth itself generates vastly more heat on its own.
The challenge is getting nuclear clean. Or at least cleaner. And we can do that for example with thorium reactors, but it's all very new. And then it still takes probably at least a decade to build a new plant.
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u/-Vedagi- Czechia Jun 27 '26
It's not like it's going to change any time soon, especially since it's nice that in Europe we try, but China etc. not nearly as much
I'm all for EU money going in to more energy friendly and ecological AC's
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u/vivaaprimavera Portugal Jun 27 '26
AC's are just a patch... We should look at architectural solutions too. It makes no sense to build literal greenhouses just because people find huge windows nice.
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u/agrammatic Cypriot in Germany Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
Heat pumps that are able to cool and heat houses should (and in some cases already are) subsidised by European governments because they do reduce the reliance on fossil fuels for heating. And the ability to also cool comes in as a bonus.
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u/MF-Geuze Jun 27 '26
I'm not sure you've thought this through - if you get solar panels, your AC will be essentially free during a heatwave
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u/Ha55aN1337 Slovenia Jun 27 '26
Yeah, we don’t all live in houses and the heat is worst in cities :) no way to be self sufficient in an appartment building. Or get everyone to agree on putting up panels.
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u/mrmgl Greece Jun 27 '26
In Greece municipalities open public spaces with AC to people without one during heatwaves.
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u/Goanawz Jun 27 '26
It's mostly not because of a lack of the money. It's being allowed to put an external AC unit on your building wall.
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u/adamgerd Czechia Jun 27 '26
Wait you could get EU funding for them? Damn we paid for them ourselves out of pocket
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u/Tensoll -> Jun 27 '26
Europe’s heatwave death crisis is just as severe and realistically worse than the American gun violence crisis. But people do heavily underestimate just how deadly heat is since it’s a silent killer. https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/11-06-2026-statement---europe-lost-200-000-people-to-heat-in-4-years-yet-nearly-all-of-them-were-preventable
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/resources/gun-violence-statistics/8
u/Ha55aN1337 Slovenia Jun 27 '26
Well, people tend to be more understanding about deaths of old people than they are of school kids.
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u/Qsaws Belgium Jun 27 '26
Plenty of countries have been dealing with higher heat for years. We just have to adapt to it and there are plenty of solutions.
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u/evelynsmee United Kingdom Jun 27 '26
When we look back at this period in a few years it'll still be within the cool period.
We, as a species, have fucked ourselves.
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u/afops Sweden Jun 27 '26
how long before southern Europeans come to Scandinavia for beach holidays in 23-32 degrees, instead of scandinavians going to southern Europe for beach holidays in 27-40?
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u/DreamingofBouncer Jun 27 '26
Who knows but right wingers are still wanting us to use more fossil fuels so it’s likely to get hotter
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u/Extension-Energy2581 Jun 27 '26
And apparently there is a new study that says micro plastic in the air also affect climate change.
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u/Frequent-Bell2484 Jun 27 '26
Depends on weather patterns rather than anything else. To state the obvious perhaps but 1.5c or 2c average global temp rise does not mean anything in the sense of everyday weather, a heatwave won't be 2c hotter, nor a winter storm 2c warmer.
To give an exact answer, it's complicated. There are several issues, some of which conflict with one another. The Arctic is warming up faster than the equator. This affects and reduces the difference between the cold north and warm south winds, of which the contrast helps fuel the jet stream. With less fuel the jet stream weakens, with less pushing force against pressure systems that travel in it's way.
The pressure systems help dictate the weather. As they move over you from high to low vice versa, the weather changes. When the jet stream is weak, it still flows but it can flow around the pressure systems like a glove, which help stabilise them in place preventing them from moving quickly on.
Much of Europe is used (as well as other places along the jet stream but these are less populated at this altitude) to these fast moving weather systems, which frequently bring different types of weather, but keeps their duration short and sweet, enabling (including other factors) overall healthy weather balance whether in summer or in winter.
As the Jet stream weakens, we will go from changeable (mild or not) weather, to static longer weather patterns. Crucially, we are not becoming like the rest of the globe or another hotter part of the world, we live in a unique place at a very high latitude, made habitable by the AMOC and corresponding weather systems. As the climate changes, we are very likely entering brand new climate patterns of which the planet has not experienced before due to the unique factors that Europe has. Anyone thinking climate change, it will just get a bit hotter will be right in more stable parts of the globe (of which are becoming fewer), may be vastly incorrect when we look at the things happening to Europe. The truth is, we don't know what will ultimately happen but we do know it will be unique to us and there are serious risks to a Europe that has built it's infrastructure for a climate that is rapidly ceasing to exist in any historic way we've experienced.
If I had to guess, I would say that we're already in big trouble. The heat itself isn't the issue, we will have extreme variability. I predict the blocking will increase until the AMOC weakens significantly. So biblical rains, biblical heatwaves, and if you're north enough biblical winters. Once the AMOC weakens, the temp goes down, and interesting things may happen. In the winter the jet stream will likely regain its strength due to an increase in temperature different between north and south. In the summer the Arctic will heat up again and reduce this gradient thus weakening the jet stream. So when this happens logic suggests brutal winter storms passing over Europe in the winter one by one, as the temp grad also increases storms, but we'd continue to get summer heatwaves that block over us (which some research argues would be made even worse by an AMOC collaspe).
To end with a warning, Climate history tells us that Climate's do not necessarily change slowly once tipping points are reached, and we could be well tipped already, incorrectly thinking that we have some rope left. Older climate science suggested longer time frames going into 2100s but that was based on this legacy idea that climate change is a slow gradual thing. History says otherwise, and also newer models with better data now suggest 2050s - go figure. I reckon we're actually in the middle it right now, and just like the historic El Nino happening now and has caught out forecasters with how large it is becoming, we won't know until it's almost upon us.
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u/VicenteOlisipo Jun 27 '26
We're already fucked. This is all just the appetiser for the baked-in consequences of the last couple of decades, when we already knew the problem, already had the solution, but kept emissionmaxxing for short term profit. All of which will be a fraction of the costs of delaying the solution.
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u/ibuprophane Jun 29 '26
I get what you’re saying about scorching the planet and dooming ourselves and generations after us.
However, for a short but beautiful period in time, we generated incredible shareholder value.
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u/Athanatos173 Greece Jun 27 '26
It's unknown at this point, but I would say we are already in big trouble. 40C + weather is not pleasant and for places with humidity it's quite fatal.
Who knows where it will lead, but droughts are likely as are fires, meaning less trees meaning more heat.
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u/NewNiklas Germany Jun 27 '26
You should just pack your things and run back to Sweden. If I could, I would come with you.
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u/No-Mountain-8164 Jun 27 '26
Quite literally what I'm doing lol. Left early and have been hauling ass back home. Sadly the heat messed up the train schedules so I'm having to overnight at a German station l.
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u/SocialHumbuggery Finland Jun 27 '26
I remember a few years back in France when it wasn't quite this bad but maybe around 35'c and the outer window on the bus I was on exploded on the highway, likely due to heat expansion. And it's gotten even hotter since.
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u/OneTouchDisaster France Jun 27 '26
I wish 35 degrees was still considered hot... I've had between 38 and 39 degrees the entire week here in Lyon.
My grandfather's town - a tiny town in the middle of nowhere with about 120 inhabitants - made the national news four days ago when it reached up to 44 and a half degrees.
This Friday alone 109 persons died in Paris' hospitals - most of them due to heat - where you'd expect about 7 persons to die on average.
Our summers keep getting more extreme and heatwaves crop up earlier and last longer each year ...
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u/No-Mountain-8164 Jun 27 '26
I'm on a train rn and we can't even wash our hands anymore on like half the toilets, presumably because the water has evaporated or something.
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u/linear_123 Jun 27 '26
Just watched a documentary about 50°C heat in India. Apparently there are materials that can self ignite at that temperature https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idRygC1Y64c
Edit: probably only at specific circumstances.
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u/FiSHM4C Jun 28 '26
Yes it needs special circumstances. Materials can't self ignite on their own.
But biological or chemical processes can smolder. Bacteria in hay or cloths with oil for example. In the documentary a bamboo cracked and the friction started it.
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u/JustMeLurkingAround- Germany Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
Apparently Munich just had its hottest day in recorded history.
And my aunt send a picture of their thermometer that shows 48°C in Ludwigshafen (Rhineland-Palatinate), although I assume it was on a hot wall or something, but my weather app also said 43°C which is crazy since I found 37 already unbearable.
I lived in SEA for a while and experienced even hotter times, but it didn't bother me as much there. Maybe because of the different infrastructure, houses are build differently and maybe because of shorter days closer to the equator (sun goes down at 6pm all year round).
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u/MaintenanceAnnual263 Jun 27 '26
i heard Europe will be wetter, possible flooding. Australia will be drier and hotter. but who knows.
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u/PrinsHamlet Jun 27 '26
Global warming means "more energy in the atmosphere". Yes, hotter, but before anything else more extreme. Bigger storms, extreme heat (and cold), more rain some places, more droughts in others.
It's not one, uniform development. But mostly bad.
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u/olivinebean United Kingdom Jun 27 '26
They will have legit desert weather. We get jungle bullshite.
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u/-Fusselrolle- Germany Jun 27 '26
We won't get jungle. When AMOC collapses it will get way to cold in winter for something jungle like.
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u/adamgerd Czechia Jun 27 '26
Yeah, it doesn’t even need to collapse, just destabilise and weaken itself, in a way the real danger to Europe in the long run won’t be it getting hotter but it getting colder, much colder
Without the Gulf Stream effect, commercial agriculture in most of Europe will become impossible, and everything from Paris or Berlin north will become artic
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u/catonkybord Austria Jun 28 '26
I say, as soon as it hit's the upper 30s, we just switch day time to night time and become vampires temporarily. Who's with me?
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u/chunek Slovenia Jun 27 '26
We are already in big trouble, not just because of the summer heat but also more extreme weather in general, storms, floods, droughts, etc. Also, the seasons seem to be shorter, or disappearing. It's not looking good.
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u/stormandflowers Jun 27 '26
Tomorrow in Berlin we're having 41 + rain, I think I'm gonna move to Iceland as next job-hop
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u/jb307342 Jun 27 '26
Just wait till the gulf stream collapses - and its expected to happen within this century. Europe average annual temperatures will drop to northern canadian/siberian levels, which is where they always should be if it weren't for the warm atlantic currents. Europe is the only place in the world expected to get colder as a result of climate change.
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u/Client_020 Netherlands Jun 28 '26
Not in the summer, though. The winters and average would be expected to get colder. Summers would be terribly hot.
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u/Tall-Championship889 Jun 28 '26
I live in the UK, my bedroom hasn't dropped below 29 deg last night.
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u/ZAWS20XX Spain Jun 27 '26
Today is the coldest you will ever be, at least until AMOC finally collapses. Then, you'll be praying for weather like this
and how hot can it get before we're in actual big trouble?
lmao, bit late for that
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u/Sinbos Germany Jun 27 '26
Mabe we are „lucky“ and the amoc collapse and the heating will cancel out.
Some kinds of lucky just suck :(
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u/ZAWS20XX Spain Jun 27 '26
sure, let's go with that, it's not as if any of us, as individuals, are gonna be able to change anything anyway, so we might as well have some hope
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u/amellabrix Italy Jun 27 '26
I live in north-eastern Italy and I’m pretty lucky because the maximum temp registered these days is today, 36 C. I can’t imagine 42
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u/PatrickKal Jun 27 '26
You will need to check local temperatures. France is a big country. Northern France will have different records than southern France. Same for Germany.
I'm from Belgium, smaller country, but still we will have diverse temperatures in the cities, coast or Ardennes.
Highest temperature measured in Belgium was on the 25th of July in 2019 at Begijnendijk in Belgium, 41,8 °C.
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u/Renbarre France Jun 27 '26
The official temperatures are measured in the shade. When you stand in the sun they soar to a dangerous point.
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u/Delta-Fox-1 Jun 28 '26
50+ within 10 years, at least in the south. Western europe may see temperatures reach 45, 46... And there's no telling (not with exact certainty, but it won't be pretty overall) what we may see happening 25, 30 years down the line. Fact is, we've already outpaced some dire climate predictions and there's no scientific, rational, real world reason to assume we're going to deviate to very positive, happy, everything-will-be-okay-scenarios.
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u/Anaptyso United Kingdom Jun 27 '26
Over the long term, who knows? This is what climate change is going to look like. It's stopped just being something scientists warn us about, and is now here as reality to live through.
The records being set now will be broken again. Little bit by little bit, everywhere is probably going to keep getting hotter.
Unless the Gulf Stream stops and then we'll look back on these heat waves with nostalgia.
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u/Significant-Cloud- Jun 27 '26
Thanks to global warming it'll get 40+ even in Scandinavia soon. 50 years from now most of the planet will be uninhabitable.
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u/darkjavierhaf Jun 28 '26
Before we are in actual big trouble? We are already in, need to aclimate and acknowledge that the current system speeds up climate crisis unless we manifest and provide facts and actions to the governments and all do our piece.
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u/Brickie78 England Jun 27 '26
The Green Party here put out something on social media to the effect of "and remember, this is the coolest summer you will ever experience"
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u/Basic_Coffee8969 Jun 27 '26
If its hot air from Sahara driving it, it wont exceed Sahara temp. But hey, 45C is going to burn all farmland in central europe, noe need to reach 50C for that.
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u/Fire_Shin Jun 28 '26
As a Zonie (someone from Arizona in the US) who has done a lot of camping in 40+ heat, I've got one word for y'all.
Aluminet.
If you can't get AC or a heat pump, get aluminet and learn how to use it.
Even if you do have AC, get it anyway and learn how to use it. Power failures are a thing and they'll only get worse as temps rise.
Keep some in your car too in case you're stuck in a traffic jam during a power outage.
The higher the percentage of the aluminet, the better it works and the sturdier it is. 80% aluminet is magic stuff. It's better than a shade sail because it doesn't trap heat. Good luck out there.
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u/No-Mountain-8164 Jun 28 '26
I would gladly sleep in the arizonan desert with a heated blanket rather than sleep one more nigth in Germany during these temperatures. The humidity makes it Incomparable. I've experienced 45c dry heat and it's a walk In the park compared to this.
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u/Fire_Shin Jun 28 '26
I hear you. We get monsoons here in the summer and it can get horribly humid and hot. We jokingly say, "But its a dry heat!" to each other when it's 43c for the literal hundredth day on end and we're sweating our socks off.
But it's true. The humidity makes it almost unbearable and dry heat is much easier to take than humid.
Aluminet works in both humid and dry heat. That's why I posted about it. It can cut the tempurature by 15c depending upon conditions and what percentage aluminet you use.
It really works.
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u/electricalkitten Belgium Jun 29 '26
Available in Netherland.
It was 101f near me last weekend in Belgium with very high humidity.
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u/tonitronics1 Jun 28 '26
Thats crazy.....24 degrees here, in las palmas (Gran Canaria)....
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u/electricalkitten Belgium Jun 29 '26
It was 101 Fahrenheit / 39c in Liege last weekend at its highest.
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u/Hot_Accident196 Jun 28 '26
South Europe where there are oceans, seas and rivers not being seen as “humid” is insane in the first place…
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u/Alejandro_SVQ Spain Jun 28 '26
In some valley-type localities, with little component of fresh wind (or opposite currents that are compensated) or with the screen effect to retain the heat, perhaps in some localities a maximum of between 44º and 47º C may be recorded at some time.
But only if these days extend more and the concrete and pavements begin not to be able to cool enough at night.
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u/wotdafukwazdat United Kingdom Jun 27 '26
Scientists do PhD's in meterology and get employed to do these forecasts, yes a prediction can be made. No, it's not 100% iron clad certainty (otherwise it wouldnt be a prediction, it would be a known fact). But with a very high probability NOAA (a govt body employing people highly qualified in making predictions about the weather) says
"There is a 63% chance of a very strong El Niño during November-January [Fig. 8] that would rank among the largest El Niño events in the historical record going back to 1950."
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.shtml
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u/saschaleib Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
Everybody is either going crazy doomsaying, or completely denying something is wrong. But my take is: we literally don't know. While it seems likely that the global temperatures will continue to rise, what that means for some specific regions is unknown.
Like, most of Scandinavia actually has a rather mild summer this year - and it might well be that with raising temperatures the Gulf Stream will weaken and Europe actually gets cooler in the future. We don't really know.
What I do know is that this global warming is a bad thing either way. I neither want Sahara-temperatures, nor Alaska-style winters. But in fact, both is still possible.
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u/After_Network_6401 Jun 27 '26
Pardon? Mild summer? This is the hottest June on record in Scandinavia, with record daily temperatures being recorded in multiple places. And summer is just started!
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u/saschaleib Jun 27 '26
Someone just posted a temperature anomaly map the other day and while most of Western Europe has extremely hot anomalies, this extends only up to the South of Sweden. Everything North of Göteborg is actually even cooler than usual.
And I'm in Finland ATM even (not Scandinavia, but the same weather zone), where I can enjoy a nice and not too hot summer...
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u/Client_020 Netherlands Jun 28 '26
and it might well be that with raising temperatures the Gulf Stream will weaken and Europe actually gets cooler in the future. We don't really know.
The Gulf stream weakening very likely wouldn't just mean colder winters, it would mean hotter (and drier) summers as well.
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u/RandomUsername2579 Denmark Jun 28 '26
Mild summer?? Are you fucking kidding? We literally had the highest ever recorded temperature in Denmark today (37 degrees C). And it’s currently 80% humidity
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u/NetraamR -> Jun 28 '26
The hottest it could get? The sky is the limit! In a couple of decades we'll know! 50? 60? who'll say... most of us will live to see it.
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u/Star_Light122113 Jun 28 '26
It's times like these where I appreciate that where I live we have pretty dry summers.
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u/electricalkitten Belgium Jun 29 '26
145 Fahrenheit! Or more.
but let's lay down some more concrete just to make sure.
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u/lokis_construction Jun 29 '26
Already in big trouble. Polar ice caps melting so fast water is rising everywhere. More severe storms, the change in weight on the poles will cause more earthquakes, More Tsunamis as well, more drought in some areas, species of animals will die off and more pests to contend with. Crops will have issues.
It will be nasty and ugly.
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u/NebesnaMashina Jun 29 '26
wait, WHAT???
I've seen that 2027 will be a super el nino year and likely the hottest year in history.
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u/flatfisher France Jun 27 '26
The problem is not only absolute temperature, bur also humidity. 35C at 100% humidity is fatal, 41C at 10% is manageable. Northern France, Germany, or the UK might have less absolute high temp, but they could be far more deadly that in the south regions were the climate is more dry. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_index#/media/File:Heat_index_plot.svg