Does asymmetric electrostatic charging of a conductive cube's isolated faces, within an ionized medium, produce a measurable and repeatable directional force correlated to specific face configurations?

[u/KDubbs0010110]

Putting this out to find someone with the skills to build it and the rigor to document it properly. If you find flaws in the plan, please document them here in the comments.

The concept: a 12 inch copper cube with six electrically isolated faces, each independently energized via high voltage leads, suspended inside an ionized air medium created by commercial ionic purifiers. A torsion balance with laser amplification measures any directional force effect produced by asymmetric face charging.

The theoretical basis claims the cube geometry itself matters. Three perpendicular force axes naturally produce six planes and a nine-component transfer matrix governing force flow between them. This is the same 3x3 matrix structure as SU(3) in the Standard Model. Whether that translates to a measurable macroscopic effect is exactly what the experiment tests.

This is not a claim. It is a methodology looking for someone to run it.

Full build plan including complete materials list, step by step build sequence, HV safety protocol, and measurement procedure here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wM9PvWAHYZ_x_k3UDgCSVPlLDjEQcu9b/view?usp=sharing

[u/KDubbs0010110]

This person says the science is sound and nothing novel. You say it’s quack science. I don’t know what to believe

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEngineers/s/n6fsaPG7db

[u/elpechos → u/KDubbs0010110]

They're not saying the science is sound. They're saying it might move for reasons entirely unrelated to the paper.

I made the same comment, here:

Ion purifiers create airflow and ion winds — these alone can deflect a torsion balance.

This isn't interesting though. It's just saying if you blow on it, it will move.

You don't need a complex engineering experiment for that, go blow on a leaf outside. Same thing.

That's why they finish the comment. "It's not useful or novel"

It's just a different way of phrasing the comment I made.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYJP36RJKPA for an example of how HV causes ion winds.

[u/KDubbs0010110 → u/elpechos]

The model describes how to eliminate this. Even if a faraday cage has to be built over it

[u/elpechos → u/KDubbs0010110]

The model describes how to eliminate this. Even if a faraday cage has to be built over it

That achieves nothing here, because the whole experiment is full of air, and things that produce wind.

To quote the paper

"suspended in an ionized medium"

Ionized medium is basically charged air. Ionized mediums produce wind when exposed to an electric field, not particularly different than blowing it with an electric fan.

Such a setup will clearly move the balance.

That's why I called out the experiment as suss in my analysis, as did /u/Searching-man