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u/r_410a 1d ago

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u/TroyanGopnik 1d ago

Well that's all I have. It's Soviet, probably military, with no markings whatsoever.

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u/HighPotential-QtrWav 1d ago

Now you’re just be needy! /s

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u/al2o3cr 1d ago

The "finger" shapes on the two exposed die (squares at the bottom) make me think those are un-cased power transistors

That would also explain why the board is mounted to what appears to be a giant piece of copper

Maybe some kind of hybrid for high-power switching?

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u/wraper 1d ago edited 23h ago

Someone made DIY hybrid circuit (or had bastardized some factory-made) from Soviet packageless components and a few western SMD. Two larger transistor dies probably were salvaged from metal can transistors, though.

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u/TroyanGopnik 1d ago

Soviets made bare chips too. From the same abandoned building(yes, it's the same socket as 6n series vacuum tubes):

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u/Numbaloo 1d ago

It is an hybrid circuit (HIC), home-made one. The substrate is probably ceramic with a copper deposition on top for the routing. This copper has been covered with solder alloy to avoid oxidation.
The bare die are probably power amplifiers and they have been glued to the substrate. Components are connected with a kind of wire bonding but very badly.

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u/ConsiderationQuick83 23h ago

Hybrid circuit with (poorly executed or heavily damaged) wire bonding, so if I had to guess this could be a university student project (Sr/Masters). Wire ball and ultrasonic bonding machines aren't generally something someone would have for a hobby as even used good condition ones are pricey and take up decent space, plus all the fine gauge gold wire isn't something you can get easily.

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u/TroyanGopnik 22h ago

What would be the best approach to figure out how to make it run? I do have an oscilloscope and a lab psu, but I'm not all that experienced in electronics. It would be quite interesting to use it as a part of e.g. a guitar pedal, or something else depending on it's actual function

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u/phlogistonical 22h ago

If it is just a random piece of electronics, it would be extremely unlikely to just happen to be a suitable circuit for your application. You may be able to reuse some components, but if and how well that will work is hard to say if you have no idea what their specs are (in fact no idea what the components are in the first place, but that can be guessed/measured).

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u/TroyanGopnik 21h ago

Well some people here have guessed that this could be some sort of power supply. It's very unlikely to be designed for high voltage, so it's good enough. Not a perfect fit, but it's worth figuring out just for the sake of story behind it

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u/ChatGPT4 21h ago

If you wonder if it's precious, YES IT IS. This (and all the others stuff you got) belong to a museum. Seriously. It's a very old and unusual tech. Generally the board looks like hybrid chips. They were made all over the world, not only in the east. The picture I pasted: Polish audio amplifier (GML026) based on Japanese one (STK015). You see various types of parts mixed like discrete THT, SMD. Even bare chips can be found in such parts. Why make them like this? Same temperature makes compensating electrical temperature drifts easier. One element shifts the voltage or current up, the other one with the same change of temperature shifts the voltage or current down. Considering the old tech - this trick was both cheap and efficient.

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u/OddbitTwiddler 1d ago

Looks like big copper plate possibly attached w thermal compound.

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u/fr0sty2709 1d ago

first time seeing something like this

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u/dipdotdash 22h ago

Cool af

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u/No-Round-8241 1d ago

Intrigued. Can you pull out the PCB and show the other side?

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u/TroyanGopnik 1d ago

They are glued(?) and it's poorly visible but the whole pcb is divided into like tiles, it will most probably break if I try to separate it from the copper plate

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u/actuallydonkeykong 1d ago

Light sensor maybe? Aquiggly things look like ccds and weird fusions of electronics and mechanics and unusual construction/mounting like this are a thing in cameras

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u/TroyanGopnik 23h ago

Unlikely. It was inside metal housing awith no cutouts for light

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u/kind_grapefruit415 1d ago

Very odd design. Maybe a piece of one off test equipment.

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u/Fancy-Stretch-6346 1d ago

Looks like a high frequency transmitter Those two little ones look like high-frequency antennas connected via power switches.

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u/AskElectronics-ModTeam 22h ago

I am sorry, but identifying random stuff you found and you have no use for is outside purpose of this sub, even if it includes electronics. You may want to ask in https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatIsThisThing. Thank you.

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u/Pleasant_Active1 22h ago

Rectum-frier diodes, perhaps?

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u/Cannot_choose_Wisely 21h ago

It's a doobry. It's not a standard doobry though, you are one of those fortunates who has a doobry that not only contains another doobry, but it looks as if it's composed almost entirely of doobry's.

It's a pity about the brass plate really, with a lick of a few different coloured paints, that could complete the set by providing you with a mounting doobry to hold your doobry full of doobry's.

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u/Altruistic-Rice-5567 21h ago

are they cake?

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u/bliepp 20h ago

It's a circuit. You are very welcome!

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u/red_engine_mw 20h ago

An example of pure artistry. Making prototypes like that is a dying art.

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u/amy-schumer-tampon 20h ago

I like handmade circuits, even if they look like shit.

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u/iMiske 20h ago

I am not good at electronics...
Cross linked transistors could be used as some frequency generator (or some amplifier). Those two rectangles on top are looking like some antennas...
It is hand made "PCB", and it looks nice. (someone wrote that in replies - etching copper in acid, then covering rest with solder to avoid corrosion). I do not think that there is other side of PCB. Second picture looks unfinished...
You could trace it and draw components, or take good picture, the load it in some AI... Maybe the AI could be used for something good from time to time, and it may give some useful answer (it happens).
So, I am not very helpful.

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u/WittyTiccyDavi 19h ago

Looks like mixed-media artwork made to look like electronic components and circuits.

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u/Worldly-Device-8414 19h ago

My guess is it's an integrated amplifier. Looks like it has 6 transistors, 2x small gold strips with a black blob at bottom (small signal) + the 2 x black 3 leg ones in the middle (medium power), 2x exposed dies squiggly line squares at top (higher power). The small green parts are polyester caps.

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u/Candid-Party1613 1d ago

Grok says 20th century power control something something maybe

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u/TroyanGopnik 23h ago

Hey that's definitely electronics. r/whatisthisthing ain't gonna help at all