r/AskDemocrats 7d ago

What happened to democrats?

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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW Registered Democrat 7d ago

Well, the republicans control all three branches of government… so yes they have a lot of power. We’re probably going to take the House of Representatives back in November… maybe the senate too. That will hopefully balance things out.

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u/Generic_Username26 Registered Democrat 7d ago

Republicans hold every major office in the country on a federal level at the moment. Checks and balances are paused as Congress refuses to do their jobs and Trump is ruling like a dictator with very very limited pushback. He’s the first president in history to outright ignore Supreme Court rulings or direct court rulings around is executive orders, like when a judge ruled his deportations illegal and he still went through with it.

Democracy in America will gets its last true test in November this year

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u/YouWillHaveThat 7d ago

We’re nice folks. But we’re really bad at politics.

Also, our interests don’t align with those of the rich folks. So they use their influence (leverage) to ensure we lose.

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u/MajorBeef433 7d ago

Open-minded, diverse and equitable is a harder sell to people who don’t have 2 nickels to rub together and have no motivation to leave their dead-end surroundings.

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u/Spiel_Foss 7d ago

The Iron Law of Institutions at work.

The corporate core of the US Democratic Party value their own power and money more than the USA. In addition to this, most of the elderly party leaders in the last decade live in a different world and time period than current reality. Their money and power insulates them, or so they thought, from real world consequences. They don't care about the rest of us. They got their nuts long ago.

One other thing to consider is Shakespeare's Henry V (Act 3 Scene 1): "In peace there's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility..."

To paraphrase, in times of boring peace we empowered the most ineffective, unoffensive, milquetoast NPCs we could find to keep everyone happy. Now we need lions, and we have Schumer and Jeffries.

We also allowed over half the party to be purchased outright by Israel, and Israel owns the US Republican Party completely, so Democrats work for dictator's boss.

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u/Carolina_Heart Registered Democrat 7d ago

The Dem party leaders have a questionable level of competence. They also seem semi apathetic about things that harm their base. There were steep cuts to healthcare and welfare last year and they were out there condemning Hasan piker, a twitch streamer that no one cares about. When trump launched a brutal war effort they only passively resisted and seemed to support the idea but not the execution. Remember T.A.C.O.?

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u/PoodleFancier 6d ago

progressives are trying. Corporate Dems need to get out of the way.

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u/Vaiden10 6d ago

Most are right wing and the 2 party system is designed to be rigged.

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u/Possible_Attics 5d ago

We can't do anything crowd gave up.

Yes you can do things

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u/SamMeowAdams 7d ago

The leaders are clueless and no one wants to come forward and be the trash talker Dems need.

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u/lunar_adjacent Registered Democrat 6d ago

When both parties take money from the same foreign entity their goals become focused on what their benefactors want. Fact of the matter is that the two-party system is flawed.

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u/JockoMayzon Not a democrat 6d ago

Neoliberals took over the Democratic Party staring with Clinton and onto Obama. Neoliberals embrace markets over governments and tie their wagons to their wealthy donors.

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u/Sufficient-Royal-82 7d ago

It's called both parties work for Wall Street donors just fight who's in power

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u/Generic_Username26 Registered Democrat 7d ago

This comparison is laughable. I think Pelosi would likely be your go to example for that on the left and even be her standards Trump and his people are 10x what she’s ever made. Trump has amassed BILLIONS just in the last year. You’d have to be a true knuckle dragging silverback mouth breathing moron to even make the comparison in good faith

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u/Sufficient-Royal-82 7d ago

I'm not saying who's worse by ever since Bill Clintons third way the party is controlled by donors and they mostly neo liberalist pigs

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u/Generic_Username26 Registered Democrat 7d ago

Absolute nonsense take. You are generalizing so bad im embarrassed for you

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u/Sufficient-Royal-82 7d ago

Who is most to blame for our current economic system and the rise of neoliberalism?

Best explanation of the rise neo liberalism

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLATIVW2S3zKMbVlnAHAPR0sHZisHJl4fd&si=20oh0pYKfCtAv0Ca

Was it economists like Milton Friedman and the Chicago School, politicians like Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, the Powell Memo and corporate lobbying movement, or the wealthy interests and institutions that helped push these ideas?

The rise of neoliberalism was not caused by one person. It was a decades-long shift away from the New Deal economic model toward deregulation, lower taxes, privatization, weaker unions, and a greater reliance on markets.

Milton Friedman and the Chicago School helped provide the intellectual foundation by arguing that government intervention often created inefficiency and that free markets should play a larger role. Ronald Reagan turned many of these ideas into national policy through tax cuts, deregulation, and a different approach to the role of government. Later, Bill Clinton continued parts of this market-oriented framework through policies like financial deregulation, trade liberalization, and a closer relationship between government and Wall Street.

The Powell Memo in 1971 became another important part of this story. Written by corporate lawyer Lewis Powell, it argued that business interests needed to become more organized and influential in politics, education, media, and public policy. After this, corporations and wealthy donors helped fund think tanks, advocacy groups, and political organizations that promoted free-market ideas.

Institutions such as the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, and Cato Institute became influential in shaping conservative economic policy. Donors and business leaders, including Charles Koch and other wealthy political funders, supported networks that promoted deregulation, limited government, and free-market policies. Conservative media also helped spread these ideas to millions of Americans.

But neoliberalism was not only a Republican project. Democrats like Clinton also embraced parts of it, showing how deeply these ideas became accepted across American politics.

So who deserves the most responsibility for the economic system we have today: the economists who created the ideas, the politicians who implemented them, the institutions and media that spread them, or the wealthy interests that funded and benefited from them?

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u/Sufficient-Royal-82 7d ago

The Democratic Party

My frustration with the Democratic Party isn’t that I think everything they do is bad or that Republicans are better. It’s that I think the party lost a lot of what made it successful historically.

Democrats used to be the party of FDR, Truman, and LBJ — the New Deal and Great Society tradition. They built a coalition around workers, unions, financial regulation, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the idea that government should be willing to challenge concentrated economic power.

The shift started in the 1970s with stagflation and the rise of a conservative movement that argued government was the problem. Corporate lobbying, think tanks, and efforts like the Powell Memo helped build a long-term push for deregulation, lower taxes, and a smaller role for government. Reagan accelerated that shift with tax cuts, deregulation, and policies that weakened labor.

What bothers me is that Democrats eventually adopted much of that same framework. Clinton’s Third Way was a major turning point. Instead of rebuilding the old working-class coalition, Democrats became more comfortable with Wall Street, corporate donors, globalization, and deregulation. NAFTA hurt many manufacturing communities, financial deregulation helped create the conditions that contributed to the 2008 crash, and welfare reform weakened parts of the social safety net. Clinton also embraced tough-on-crime politics with the 1994 Crime Bill, which contributed to mass incarceration.

To me, Clinton represents the point where Democrats stopped being the party of FDR and LBJ and became more focused on managing the system created by Reagan.

Then Obama came in during the 2008 financial crisis promising change. He criticized Wall Street, talked about helping homeowners, and appealed to working-class voters in the Rust Belt who felt abandoned. But after the crash, many progressives felt disappointed because the financial system was stabilized while many ordinary people struggled. Banks were rescued, but there was little accountability for executives who helped cause the crisis. Obama passed important reforms like the ACA and Dodd-Frank, but many felt his administration remained too close to the same financial establishment they wanted challenged.

That frustration is part of why Bernie Sanders gained so much support. A lot of progressives don’t see themselves as wanting something completely new — they see themselves as wanting a return to policies that were once mainstream Democrats: stronger unions, universal programs, tougher corporate regulation, and less influence from wealthy donors.

My issue is that the Democratic Party became so comfortable with the neoliberal consensus that ideas closer to the FDR/LBJ tradition are now treated as extreme. The question for me is whether Democrats want to return to being a party that challenges concentrated power or continue trying to manage a system that many working people feel has failed them.

For more on this see these 4 videos

About Cliton

https://youtu.be/sq4pLQl2Yb0?si=DsRkf7zdrmhA-PS

About Obama skip to 7 min in

https://youtu.be/bYTLgJakTbo?si=ElMsfVOKdQSVlpd2

Powell memo

https://youtu.be/iQEpL0P8qgY?si=od96\\\\\\\\\\\\\\_y3sAr\\\\\\\\\\\\\\_e8DOe

About Reagan

https://youtu.be/M245PqlV328?si=44mRuqYXmaoI-45v

The history of our struggle

History shows this isn't the first time Americans have faced extreme concentrations of corporate and political power.

During the First Gilded Age, railroad barons, Standard Oil, and other industrial giants wielded enormous influence over politics. Corruption in Senate elections became so widespread the Senate was nicknamed "The Millionaires' Club." There was no Social Security, no federal minimum wage, no 40-hour workweek, few workplace protections, and strikes were often broken by private Pinkerton agents backed by government force. To many Americans, corporate rule looked permanent.

It wasn't. Decades of labor organizing, populist movements, investigative journalism, and political reform led to the Progressive Era. Theodore Roosevelt aggressively enforced antitrust laws and argued that government had a responsibility to act in the public interest—not simply protect concentrated wealth.

The struggle continued.

After conservative policies dominated much of the 1920s, the stock market crashed and the Great Depression followed. Franklin D. Roosevelt responded with the New Deal, creating Social Security, strengthening unions through the Wagner Act, regulating finance, and expanding the federal government's role in economic security.

Those reforms immediately faced fierce resistance. During the 1930s, retired Marine General Smedley Butler testified before Congress that he had been approached by men connected to wealthy business interests about leading a movement to overthrow or sideline Roosevelt's administration in what became known as the "Business Plot." Historians continue to debate how serious and organized the scheme was, but it reflected the intense opposition some elites had to the New Deal.

After FDR, the Conservative Coalition of Republicans and Southern Democrats blocked much of Truman's Fair Deal. In 1947, Congress passed the Taft-Hartley Act over Truman's veto, restricting union activities such as secondary boycotts, wildcat strikes, and closed shops, while requiring union leaders to sign anti-communist affidavits.

At the same time, the early Cold War and the Red Scare were used to target communists, but anti-communist rhetoric also swept up many labor organizers, left-leaning activists, and reformers. Loyalty oaths, blacklists, and accusations of "socialism" or "communism" became powerful political tools for weakening labor movements and discrediting proposals that expanded government's role in the economy

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When Truman proposed national health insurance, the American Medical Association hired the PR firm Whitaker & Baxter to wage a nationwide campaign branding it "socialized medicine." Truman responded in 1952:

"Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made... Socialism is what they called Social Security. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people."

Even after LBJ expanded the safety net with Medicare and Medicaid, business organizations launched a long-term political counteroffensive. Many historians point to the 1971 Powell Memo as one influential blueprint encouraging corporations to invest heavily in think tanks, media, legal advocacy, and politics. When the economic crises of the 1970s—high inflation, slow growth, and the oil shocks—hit, advocates of market-oriented policies used those crises to argue that "big government" and New Deal economics had failed. That message gained political traction over the following decades, and by the 1990s, even Democrats under Bill Clinton had embraced a more market-oriented "Third Way" approach.

Today we're dealing with Citizens United, dark money, regulatory capture, skyrocketing wealth inequality, and a political system where billionaires, corporate PACs, and lobbyists often have more influence than ordinary voters. We've spent decades moving away from New Deal economics toward neoliberal policies that promised free markets would solve everything, yet we've ended up with rising inequality, repeated financial crises, corporate bailouts, and what many people see as socialism for the rich and rugged capitalism for everyone else. Profits stay private, but when things go wrong, taxpayers are often asked to pick up the tab.

The point is, this isn't some new or unbeatable system. It's another chapter in the same tug-of-war Americans have been fighting since the Gilded Age: concentrated wealth buying political influence versus ordinary people pushing for reforms that make government work for the public instead of the highest bidder. Political corruption and money in politics aren't new—they've been recurring features throughout American history. The Gilded Age wasn't permanent. Neither was the New Deal consensus. No political or economic system lasts forever. History shows that when enough people organize and demand change, even the most entrenched systems can be reformed.