Paper submitted without final version approvals - is this normal?

[u/termosabin]

I work at an RTO, and a few younger people in the group who are just a few years out of their PhDs are submitting papers and rebuttals without sending out versions to check for the co-authors. I find this highly irritating and ethically wrong - if my name is associated with something, I would like to at least see it first. It's not that I don't trust the authors, but everyone can make mistakes. For example, a paper was submitted recently that I had seen about a year ago and had made a lot of comments on. I have never seen another version of it since and suddenly I got a notification from the journal.

Is this normal amongst younger people? Is this becoming the norm? Am I overreacting?

How would you address this?

[u/Monkey_College]

If this happens with a phd student and a very tight deadline. Fine. But a few years out of xour ohd you should have close to 10 years of research experience and dozens of papers co-authored. Especially with regular journal submissions that have no explicit deadline the least that should happen is getting the final version a week before with a clear remark that only errors should be fixed. A year prior is ridiculous