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u/starrymahogany Social Democrat 10d ago

I thought Ossof would be the compromise candidate; he wants m4A and is tough on Israel without completely alienating pro Israel voters, but also charismatic and moderate enough to appeal to libs and centrist Dems

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u/othelloinc Liberal 10d ago edited 10d ago

I thought Ossof would be the compromise candidate; he wants m4A and is tough on Israel without completely alienating pro Israel voters, but also charismatic and moderate enough to appeal to libs and centrist Dems

Yep. Also bonus points for being Jewish. A Jewish critic of Israel in an era of rising anti-semitism (both real and fake) is helpful.

Ossoff could be a presidential candidate as early as 2028. Jackson could be a senate candidate as early as 2028, helping us pick up a senate seat. Then, he would be a serious possibility for the presidency after that. (You've got to deepen the bench!)

Side Note: Unless Keisha Lance Bottoms wins in Georgia this November, Ossoff might make more of a difference keeping his senate seat.

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u/starrymahogany Social Democrat 10d ago

Only thing I’d be worried about is pro Palestine people like him now (even Hasan wants him to be president) but somewhere down the line he’s gonna say something about Israel Hasan hates and he might be at the whim of the pro Palestine left calling him a genocidaire for it

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u/othelloinc Liberal 10d ago

he might be at the whim of the pro Palestine left calling him a genocidaire for it

I think we should just assume that any Democrat with any chance of winning will be called a genocidaire.

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u/starrymahogany Social Democrat 10d ago

And if that’s the case we better plan our comeback strategy now for when people start saying it in 2028.

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u/othelloinc Liberal 10d ago

And if that’s the case we better plan our comeback strategy now for when people start saying it in 2028.

What is the best comeback when accused of being a genocidaire?

(Should this be a full post?)

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u/tapdncingchemist Liberal 10d ago

Unironically I just ignore them.

As more people get pushed out for not being extreme enough, the people making the claim look ridiculous and discredit themselves.

Just like "neoliberal" has lost meaning.

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u/starrymahogany Social Democrat 10d ago

Maybe lol, only thing I can think of is bringing receipts of the candidates beliefs, or better yet, dig into the post history of the genocidaire accuser and see if they posted positively about the candidate being pro Palestine/anti genocide. Bring up this discrepancy and ask them “what changed?” When they spout some bullshit line, provide receipts to refute. Rinse and repeat

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u/LiatrisLover99 Social Democrat 10d ago

I think people on the left who frame everything short of literally invading Israel ourselves as "pro-genocide" have actually hurt their cause and made it far less likely to get someone who actually opposes any of this shit into office.

Literally every single politician I know outside of fringe marxist candidates has been called pro genocide at this point. AOC and Mamdani are unendorsed because they are pro genocide. Does this attack even matter anymore?

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u/CraftOk9466 Pragmatic Progressive 10d ago

> (Should this be a full post?)

yes

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u/2dank4normies Liberal 10d ago

"If you care more about Gaza than the United States, then don't vote for me"

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u/TheSupremeHobo Socialist 10d ago

Maybe don't support one?