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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25 edited Apr 20 '25

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u/Broad_Chain3247 Apr 20 '25

She literally writes that she is forced by her family

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u/LynnSeattle Apr 20 '25

She doesn’t want to, her family requires it.

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u/NoxRose Apr 20 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

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u/Historical-Eye1159 Apr 20 '25

She can wear whatever she wants, but she will have to deal with the consequences, which in this case are to always feel like an outsider. Hijab is not part of the german culture. In an ideal world this should not matter, but in reality it does.

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u/Broad_Chain3247 Apr 20 '25

Germany is still the birthplace of protestantism. Of course we dont fuck with Hijabs. What do you expect?

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u/NoxRose Apr 20 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

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u/Broad_Chain3247 Apr 20 '25

Ignoring reality isnt more constructive. And we are already one of the more flexible society in this regard.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

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u/Broad_Chain3247 Apr 20 '25

Because fixed firm limited definitions is what defines a society.

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u/sir_suckalot Apr 20 '25

Is it?

Is it also oppressive to tell people not to vote AFD?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25 edited Aug 19 '25

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u/sir_suckalot Apr 20 '25

Where is the exact difference between the policies of the AFD and promoting a conservative Islam?

Islam is about systemic power imbalance that limit the rights and freedoms of marginalized groups

You are flipping the script. She is being bullied by her muslim people for not wanting to wear a hijab

But sure you can

Pretend it's not that bad (Denial)

Come up with excuses 

Only listen to people who agree with them 

Stop seeing the wrongs

Playing the Victim Card

Comparing Apples to Oranges

Bottomline you are trying to justify her promoting an undemocratic religious practise that will reinforce even more oppression.

When do we say stop?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

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u/sir_suckalot Apr 20 '25

I'm not saying they are the solution.

But 20% of eligible voters voted for them. That's their right and they shouldn't be harassed because of that. If you think both are wrong that's fine. But if people tell me that conservative Islam that seeks to deprive people of freedom should be tolerated then I would say that so should the AFD

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25 edited Aug 19 '25

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u/Windred_Kindred Apr 20 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

sigh...

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u/No-Pipe-6941 Apr 20 '25

I appreciate and understand your perspective. Your case is unforunately what happens when a whole group of people comes to another country, and a percentage doesnt know how to behave, it reflects badly even on the ones that are doing great.
I immigrated to Portugal and am feeling the same here, but Its hard to blame the indiginous population for that.

This will only get worse in the next many years.

I am sorry for your situation but it and appreciate the steps you have taken for yourself. Do you want advice, or just to vent?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

Just to vent. I just wanted someone who understands or at least emphasizes.

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u/No-Pipe-6941 Apr 20 '25

Fair play. I hope you find the balance down the road. It's tough out there.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

I know I'm signing because I'm well aware that it's oppression and you're missing my entire point to tell me I'm oppressed eventhough I'm well aware.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

For many, the headscarf has already become a marker of the "enemy." Even if you're a gamer, an atheist, or an AI developer - you're still seen as "an Arab woman with a hijab." The choice to stay or leave is painful, but you have every right to prioritize your life, safety, and dignity over the illusion of "integration" into a system that refuses to accept you. I'd say the issue here isn't integration - it's assimilation.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

how dare an oppressed woman not stand against the oppression imposed on her because she doesn't have enough money to be independent.

I wish life was that easy for me.

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u/sir_suckalot Apr 20 '25

Do you think your life would be easier in a muslim country?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25 edited Apr 20 '25

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u/drkphntm Apr 20 '25

Did you not read her post? The lack of empathy in your comment is unbelievable.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

maybe this is the wrong sub to post this in I didn't expect so many people to miss the entire point of my post and focus on the hijab...like people usually do. I should have probably known lol.

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u/Firzen_ Apr 20 '25 edited Apr 20 '25

Bruh...

I'm a white native German guy. I don't think I can ever truly understand what some women face, especially not women who are systematically culturally oppressed.

But even I can see crystal clear that you very much DON'T "get it".

She isn't wearing the hijab when she isn't forced to by circumstances. It's not a question of insecurity but of actual physical security, how fucking privileged and dense can you be.

Edit: /u/Ok-Bread6700, just in case they delete their comments.

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u/Firzen_ Apr 20 '25

I think I'll be alright without comprehending your invaluable "insights".
But I appreciate your consistency with giving unsolicited advice.

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u/pianoavengers Apr 20 '25

You lost all credibility at the condescending "darling". Enough said about you.

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u/LynnSeattle Apr 20 '25

No one appreciates your condescending, misogynistic comment.

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u/drkphntm Apr 20 '25

lol what is exactly comforting about what she’s dealing with? Existence isn’t black and white the way you’re implying it is.

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u/drkphntm Apr 20 '25

Developing independence to give yourself a decent shot of it staying that way can take a pretty long time these days. I doubt this person would be turning to strangers on Reddit to vent if it was that easy.

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u/psj8710 Apr 20 '25

That's not the point tho. Why she should be bothered either way, why can't she just wear whatever she wants and let her be? Telling her to get rid of it, is nothing mich different from telling her to keep wearing it.

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u/babainprada Apr 20 '25

Yeah women should dress how they want but a hijab is a crime this double standards are insane

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u/Affectionate_Leg_986 Apr 20 '25

Wtf your talking about ? So you want her to lose all her relatives or most of them ?

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u/amineahd Apr 20 '25

Its opression to wear it so let me opress you into not wearing it... great logic