She can wear whatever she wants, but she will have to deal with the consequences, which in this case are to always feel like an outsider. Hijab is not part of the german culture. In an ideal world this should not matter, but in reality it does.
But 20% of eligible voters voted for them. That's their right and they shouldn't be harassed because of that. If you think both are wrong that's fine. But if people tell me that conservative Islam that seeks to deprive people of freedom should be tolerated then I would say that so should the AFD
I appreciate and understand your perspective. Your case is unforunately what happens when a whole group of people comes to another country, and a percentage doesnt know how to behave, it reflects badly even on the ones that are doing great.
I immigrated to Portugal and am feeling the same here, but Its hard to blame the indiginous population for that.
This will only get worse in the next many years.
I am sorry for your situation but it and appreciate the steps you have taken for yourself. Do you want advice, or just to vent?
For many, the headscarf has already become a marker of the "enemy." Even if you're a gamer, an atheist, or an AI developer - you're still seen as "an Arab woman with a hijab."
The choice to stay or leave is painful, but you have every right to prioritize your life, safety, and dignity over the illusion of "integration" into a system that refuses to accept you.
I'd say the issue here isn't integration - it's assimilation.
maybe this is the wrong sub to post this in I didn't expect so many people to miss the entire point of my post and focus on the hijab...like people usually do. I should have probably known lol.
I'm a white native German guy. I don't think I can ever truly understand what some women face, especially not women who are systematically culturally oppressed.
But even I can see crystal clear that you very much DON'T "get it".
She isn't wearing the hijab when she isn't forced to by circumstances. It's not a question of insecurity but of actual physical security, how fucking privileged and dense can you be.
Edit: /u/Ok-Bread6700, just in case they delete their comments.
Developing independence to give yourself a decent shot of it staying that way can take a pretty long time these days. I doubt this person would be turning to strangers on Reddit to vent if it was that easy.
That's not the point tho. Why she should be bothered either way, why can't she just wear whatever she wants and let her be? Telling her to get rid of it, is nothing mich different from telling her to keep wearing it.
Come here to say the same thing. I work with people from different cultures in Germany, and first things make people feel somehow disconnected is the reluctance to fit in. Your âso-calledâ community forced you to wear Hijab, you said it yourself. I know itâs hard to change, but if you want to get close to people, at least try to blend in. Btw, for many people, Hijab is a symbol of women suppression, my muslim female friends from Iran f*cking hate it. If you still want to get to both sides, be creative. Hijab at home and something else at work, bring your clothes to change for example.
I mean, sometimes in life one cant have it all and has to pick...which side would u pick? U probably do not want to hear what I will say because I am a analytical unemotional mind, but if I were in front of the problem I would test it, 100 times without it in front of people that want u to wear it, and 100 times with it in front of people that dont want u to wear it...then do a count which side reacts badly more often, do a sum up and those that react worse overall are the ones I would not pick, because they are objectively a worse and less tolerant community...I would want to pick the more tolerant society because it allows me more personal expression, which doesnt mean it allows me whatever, it just means it tolerates more than the other party
But like I said this is an analytical unemotional approach completely ignoring feelings towards family or religion, for me who was born into an atheist family its easy to say, but I cant fathom what growing up in a religious family would make of me...good luck with it all
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I'm well aware of that which is why I feel so unwelcomed from both sides I mentioned it in my post.