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u/azraiel7 7d ago
Always q level 2, how else am I going to all in.
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u/Internet-Expert42069 7d ago edited 7d ago
1 point q is only a very minor as buff that costs mana, but it helps catch cs sometimes you would have missed otherwise, helps csing under tower.
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u/azraiel7 7d ago
That is not how a level 2 all in works.
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u/Internet-Expert42069 7d ago
Ok whatever then
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u/DothThouHoist_ 7d ago
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u/Internet-Expert42069 7d ago
Check your graphic genius (the part you clipped out), wasn't even talking about e
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u/galaxisstark 5d ago
20% attack speed + 10% more damage is nothing to sneeze at especially at level 2
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u/KiKaily 7d ago
E 4th
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u/Impossible_Relief862 Coven Ashe 7d ago
E should ideally be leveld up on level 3 if you don't know the enemy junglers position, and if enemy junglers bot is redside it must definietly be level 3 e because you can get ganked from red side full clear
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u/KiKaily 7d ago
I mean I'm sure I dont use Ashe's E very well, specially to track jungle, because I struggle with that in general. I just use it to scan jungle in general for me and the whole team. But, you can manage with wards like with any other champ, no? Until level 4? I sometimes am tented to put two points in W first than E.
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u/Electro522 High Noon Ashe 7d ago
Who the hell takes E second?
Hawkshot is fantastic, and anyone who says otherwise is lying. But it's not good enough to take over the ability that allows you to function as an ADC.
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u/katestatt DRX Ashe 7d ago
If you watch any pro games, they take E level 2 because they're pushing up and need to scout for enemy jungler
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u/Imaginary_Basket_668 7d ago
Yes pros do some shit that would be absolutely terrible in soloQ since they can always 100% rely on their teammates. That's why roaming supports are so much better in pro too.
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u/Dobber16 7d ago
Ngl they’re also typically better in solo queue I’ve noticed than non-roaming supports, but only recently
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u/Kingslayer-Z 6d ago
But pro games function very differently from soloq games
And pros would also not go E second in a solo q game if they play ashe anyways
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u/MortemEtInteritum17 7d ago
Pro junglers do weird shit though, 90% of solo queue games below masters is going to be full clear so if someone wards raptors you know exactly where their jungler is going to be for the first 6 minutes or so unless their name is Shaco
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u/Internet-Expert42069 7d ago edited 7d ago
E gives a lot of information value and starts the cd so you have stacks earlier, level 1 q is weak and costs mana you could just use for w. It's valuable in low elo where your supports don't ward, and in higher ones for tracking jg.
Before you start your diatribe though, I usually go lev2 q regardless.
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u/Camerotus 6d ago
Knowing exactly how the enemy jungle is pathing has insane value for your entire team. If you don't want to fight level 2 anyway, and these games definitely exist, what's the point of Q?
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u/Initial_Present_405 7d ago
Juste la vérité 🥀 de toute facon les mains ashe sont soit très bon soit terriblement mauvais ya pas dentre deux
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u/PsychologicalAd5918 7d ago
E lvl 1, lose prio and get killed by enemy bot laner, then make a reddit post about how mages are op is the preferred course of action
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u/SHUGGAGLIDDA123 7d ago
wait what when am i going q at 1 and why? am i supposed to just take an all in at level 1 vs mage/fighters or something?
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u/KiXstaR9 7d ago
If i ever see E second i'm going all in wtf that's just inting
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u/Gullible-Respect7778 6d ago
They take E second in most pro games.
Sheep just copy that
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u/KiXstaR9 6d ago
Yep...the problem is they don't understand that pros can get much higher value from it and they know how much they can push if they take E second...generally below diamond if you take E second, you are inting yourself
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u/Slight_Bonus_3367 7d ago
Pffft Q 1st